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[Tichi1]

If you look back at my player review following the Bristol game, I was positive about several players, critical of some, etc. Amongst many who commented however, I observed that we were playing a team that didn't turn up in the first half, and when they did in the latter part of the second, caused us no end of problems. What I post you can take as "despair", I prefer it to be seen (of course) as sceptical objectivity (if such a thing exists).

I take it that by "addressing it" you refer to the (possibly) two signings today? You mentioned on the "Why bother" thread that "there are a lot of youngsters pushing for the 1st team", but we have just loaned-in ANOTHER 18yr old (GK) (who surely cannot be regarded as a 2nd string to Casilla?), and are rumoured to be loaning-in YET ANOTHER teenager (attacker), so forgive me if I feel some sympathy for those in the league-winning U23s squad who see new players coming in, yet the likes of Struik, Edmonson, Shackleton, Temenuzhkov etc. get almost zero game time.

YOU say Bristol didn't turn up - I say we didn't give them a sniff first half, YOU say they gave us no end of problems later on in the game - I say we took our foot off the pedal and made a couple of substitutions that didn't help momentum late on - but hey I know F00k all and you know everything - I mean you are far more observant than the Oracle - Joel eh?

But after ....

About six years of listening to your negativity mate! six sad years of bile , 72 months of none stop moaning, whinging and whining, roughly 312 weeks of thinking "Can this miserable git be for real", Over 2000 days of none stop moaning about whoever the current owner may be, nearly 53,000 hours for hearing how shyte everything to do with "Your team" is, Over 3 million minutes of being exasperated at how sad and negative one miserable ****er can possibly be... nearly 200 million seconds of your miserable ****in negative life hearing how wrong every other poster on here is... there.. I've just wasted another five minutes of myn life replying to your drivel.

here's to the next F00kin [To use your favorite exclamation] few million seconds of your spiteful responses to anything positive posted here, I would say enjoy the season - as most reasonable posters on here suggest that they will - but that would be a stupid suggestion given your doom ridden stance on anything and everything.

I will await with bated breath your structured response...

[WTF11]

YOU say Bristol didn't turn up - I say we didn't give them a sniff first half, YOU say they gave us no end of problems later on in the game - I say we took our foot off the pedal and made a couple of substitutions that didn't help momentum late on - but hey I know F00k all and you know everything - I mean you are far more observant than the Oracle - Joel eh?

But after ....

About six years of listening to your negativity mate! six sad years of bile , 72 months of none stop moaning, whinging and whining, roughly 312 weeks of thinking "Can this miserable git be for real", Over 2000 days of none stop moaning about whoever the current owner may be, nearly 53,000 hours for hearing how shyte everything to do with "Your team" is, Over 3 million minutes of being exasperated at how sad and negative one miserable ****er can possibly be... nearly 200 million seconds of your miserable ****in negative life hearing how wrong every other poster on here is... there.. I've just wasted another five minutes of myn life replying to your drivel.

here's to the next F00kin [To use your favorite exclamation] few million seconds of your spiteful responses to anything positive posted here, I would say enjoy the season - as most reasonable posters on here suggest that they will - but that would be a stupid suggestion given your doom ridden stance on anything and everything.

I will await with bated breath your structured response...

You do go on a bit for someone who doesn't pay any mind to what I post, don't you dearie?

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Predictable

[CromerWhite]

Predictable

Mind numbingly so

[WTF11]

Mind numbingly so

Can't quite work out to who's post that comment applies, both perhaps?

ALAW, yeah, like f00k we are.

[CromerWhite]

Can't quite work out to who's post that comment applies, both perhaps?

ALAW, yeah, like f00k we are.

It was directed at you.

And yes I'm assuming we are all Leeds since we are posting on a Leeds forum.

You spout the same poorly reasoned drivel all the time. Its boring and you're just really annoying.

I suppose you're going to tell me not read your posts but it's difficult when you spray your 5hite all over the place.

[WTF11]

It was directed at you.

And yes I'm assuming we are all Leeds since we are posting on a Leeds forum.

You spout the same poorly reasoned drivel all the time. Its boring and you're just really annoying.

I suppose you're going to tell me not read your posts but it's difficult when you spray your 5hite all over the place.

"Poorly reasoned drivel"?

So, Joel can compare BPF to his granny, on the basis of nothing more than he thinks it's vaguely humorous (as he makes no other reference to any basis for his comment), whereas I make the suggestion based on (very easily acquired and independently produced) facts that there is no substantial difference in performance between BFG and Casilla (and if anything BPF shaves it), and I'm the one spouting poorly reasoned drivel.

Hmmmm, sounds like you need to look in the mirror to find those spouting drivel.

As for reading my posts, do I give a miniscule rats ar5e if you read or respond? Hazard a guess.

[CromerWhite]

"Poorly reasoned drivel"?

So, Joel can compare BPF to his granny, on the basis of nothing more than he thinks it's vaguely humorous (as he makes no other reference to any basis for his comment), whereas I make the suggestion based on (very easily acquired and independently produced) facts that there is no substantial difference in performance between BFG and Casilla (and if anything BPF shaves it), and I'm the one spouting poorly reasoned drivel.

Hmmmm, sounds like you need to look in the mirror to find those spouting drivel.

As for reading my posts, do I give a miniscule rats ar5e if you read or respond? Hazard a guess.

I think you're a bit of an oddball who gets a kick out of winding people up.

Wonder what BPF stats would have looked like at the end of the season? We will never know will we because he wouldn't of finished the season on the pitch, he would have been dropped before KC arrived if Blackman hadn't broken is leg and that's a fact not speculation.

Joel was making the point that BPF couldn't get down on the ground to save a shot, anyone with eyes could see that, I've more health problems than you can shake at stick at but I reckon I would have a fair chance of getting on the deck quicker than him (granted it would probably be more like collapsing than diving).

You seem to spend your time trying to sow division with your negative comments based on nothing, a bit like this crap:

"so forgive me if I feel some sympathy for those in the league-winning U23s squad who see new players coming in, yet the likes of Struik, Edmonson, Shackleton, Temenuzhkov etc. get almost zero game time"

Have you spoken to them, did they ask for your sympathy? If they need sympathy are you suggesting that the club have done something wrong to them, treated them badly? Maybe in the case of Edmonson he's thinking "Jesus they've just shipped out 20 odd players but i'm still here so they must think I've got potential, maybe if I work hard in training I can get the nod, maybe if I really put the hours in I might get a call up to the England youth squad and have a chance of scoring 21 goals out of 25 games like the new guy"

But know instead they need sympathy because the club are treating them like 5hite because that's nice and negative and fits in with your on fecked up view.

Do you want MB to go against his better judgement and pick players who aren't ready for the first team in place of someone we have who is better. Do you want us to loose games? I really wonder some times if you really have the best intentions for this club or whether you use this forum to get a bit of a buzz from fecking people off.

On and on and on and on, never fecking ending.

[CromerWhite]

Kinda funny that the four payers you mentioned, three were signed by Orta and Shackleton was given his first professional contract by Orta.

Remember Orta the foreign guy you hate along with the chairman.

If you actually watched the games you might notice Shackleton played 19 games last season, but he still needs our sympathy because he's not getting a chance.

You couldn't make this 5hite up, well obviously not true because you do.

[WTF11]

I think you're a bit of an oddball who gets a kick out of winding people up.

Wonder what BPF stats would have looked like at the end of the season? We will never know will we because he wouldn't of finished the season on the pitch, he would have been dropped before KC arrived if Blackman hadn't broken is leg and that's a fact not speculation.

Joel was making the point that BPF couldn't get down on the ground to save a shot, anyone with eyes could see that, I've more health problems than you can shake at stick at but I reckon I would have a fair chance of getting on the deck quicker than him (granted it would probably be more like collapsing than diving).

You seem to spend your time trying to sow division with your negative comments based on nothing, a bit like this crap:

"so forgive me if I feel some sympathy for those in the league-winning U23s squad who see new players coming in, yet the likes of Struik, Edmonson, Shackleton, Temenuzhkov etc. get almost zero game time"

Have you spoken to them, did they ask for your sympathy? If they need sympathy are you suggesting that the club have done something wrong to them, treated them badly? Maybe in the case of Edmonson he's thinking "Jesus they've just shipped out 20 odd players but i'm still here so they must think I've got potential, maybe if I work hard in training I can get the nod, maybe if I really put the hours in I might get a call up to the England youth squad and have a chance of scoring 21 goals out of 25 games like the new guy"

But know instead they need sympathy because the club are treating them like 5hite because that's nice and negative and fits in with your on fecked up view.

Do you want MB to go against his better judgement and pick players who aren't ready for the first team in place of someone we have who is better. Do you want us to loose games? I really wonder some times if you really have the best intentions for this club or whether you use this forum to get a bit of a buzz from fecking people off.

On and on and on and on, never fecking ending.

Far from being an "oddball" as you put it, I really do wonder what you and others would have to post if it wasn't for taking me to task. Mutual back-slapping can only go so far.

Joels comment about BPF was one of many, by many, who have criticised BPF whilst appearing to consider that Casilla can walk on water, that he is "1000% better than BPF", that BPF is the "worst keeper ever at ER" (Really, Silverstri, Flapper Wiedewald??), and all made with not a single shred of evidence to support them. But hey, why let a little thing like facts get in the way of slagging off a product of the Academy just because he chooses to get better paid doing much the same elsewhere?

And since when do you need permission to express sympathy for someones situation? Having nearly topped the 20 mark of goals for the season, I would imagine Edmonson (who played all of 35 minutes in the 1st team, probably because we had so many other goal-scoring threats!) will be looking to play in the 1st team, as will others who performed so well. If he doesn't he has my sympathy, if not yours. Lets see how much game time he and others get, now we have the kid from Arsenal (at £2m loan fee plus £35k/week which Leeds are paying), Costa, White etc, all competing for the places the U23s might have aspired to. (And as for the 19 games Shackleton played, how many did he start, and how many minutes on the pitch (we can all play with statistics)? I'll save you the effort, 22 minutes per game, hardly "played 19 matches", hmm?)

And the fact that Orta managed to find three good players to bring to the Academy? Simple law of averages. And how about the Grot, Ineguchi, Anita, Cibicki, Sacko, Lassogga, Ekuban, De bock, Bouy, Dalbys of this world, (and others)? Bound to come good if you cast your net wide enough, and spend without worrying about value for money. Believe it or not, I'm pleased we haven't splashed the cash this window or last, shows we have learned from past mistakes (well, excepting Casilla).

None of the above is "made up" as you put it, all is out there for anyone to see, just that some prefer to look at the world through rose-tinted glasses.

MOT