King Charles III

[ragingpup]

I personally get very aggressive when my servents mess up my pen protocol

[CAMiller]

I personally get very aggressive when my servents mess up my pen protocol

Perfectly justified exasperation. They have been practicing for this every day for the past 50+ years and the minion still managed to mess it up.

[John2]

I’m not really a Royalist John but in truth your coming across as bitter and upset.
Let it go you may felt better then.

Good, I'm articulating myself correctly then.

I'm not upset, I find the whole pompousness and ridiculousness of it quite funny, but I am bitter at the notion that we are told that these billionaires people are magically better than the working people of this country and we're supposed to automatically honour and respect them, that just is dumb to me. Respect and power should be earned.

I'll stop being bitter and complaining about it when this ridiculous institution is abolished.

[Shark27]

Good, I'm articulating myself correctly then.

I'm not upset, I find the whole pompousness and ridiculousness of it quite funny, but I am bitter at the notion that we are told that these billionaires people are magically better than the working people of this country and we're supposed to automatically honour and respect them, that just is dumb to me. Respect and power should be earned.

I'll stop being bitter and complaining about it when this ridiculous institution is abolished.

Did you miss my question?

[animallittle3]

This is the man some people on here want to rule over them and be loyally subservient towards. Fascinating.

That assumes the royalists had a choice in the matter John .

We've clashed a number of weeks ago but fair play to you , your a brave man sticking your neck out in this climate .

[millertop]

I watched a recording of the Accession event yesterday. Intriguing in its weirdness and whacky pageantry but on the whole what people - particularly those from other countries - expect to see when they think of English-ness.

When the Queen was in her role doing this kind of thing she personified dignity and solemnity. Charles doesn’t quite have the stature to carry it off for me - but let’s see if he can grow into it.

His rather pompous air and need to flick through the program of events did not help endear him to me and I’m sure others: his impatient, testy flapping at the staff who had tried to replace the signing pens for the oaths reminded me much more of his father than his mother and immediately reignited my fear that he is just not cut out for this job.

He has a lot to learn.

I’ve always said he takes after his father, be interesting that’s for sure

[John2]

Did you miss my question?

I apologise.

The Princes Trust no doubt does a lot of good work.

Where we probably differ in our perspectives is in the motivations for its creation.

The Monarchy is literally a family business, and the family business is the brand.

There is a huge expectation that members of the royal family will be seen to be doing "good" things, that justify its existence and generate good PR.

It is harder for members of the royal family to not do charitable activities than to do them, given the incredibly cost-effective publicity this provides, and the goodwill it buys the Royal Family.

I can't help but roll my eyes at the creation story of the princes trust. In reality advisors probably told him he should lend his name to a charity and gave him a few options. The way it is spun is that he selflessly gave his £7,400 Navy severance package to help start the charity. We're fed this line and are supposed to be so impressed by this size of a gift from a billionaire.

Prince Charles has done a good job of leveraging his name and brand appeal to create a well-funded organisation that does good, and deserves credit for that.

But let's be honest, the real credit goes to those putting in the hours to do the actual work of running the charity day to day. How many hours a week to you think he really spends in a week working for the charity getting his hands dirty? They do all that work, he gets all the credit.

His role is really lending his image to it. Much like David Beckham does when he allows a company to make underwear with his name on it.

To be fair, Charles has also used(abused?) his status to solicit donations from Russian bankers in exchange for access to the monarchy, or offering Saudi donors honourary titles such as a CBE in exchange for cash.

Lots of this donated money mysteriously disappears to middlemen too.

But still, it does a lot of good work, and it generates a lot of "good will" for the royal family which as we can see fulfils the function of shielding them from criticism to an extent.

[John2]

That assumes the royalists had a choice in the matter John .

There is certainly a lot of pressure on anyone born into the monarchy, and particularly the throne, and I think that is unfair and another reason to abolish it.

However, they are not without choice as Edward VIII and more recently Prince Harry have bravely shown us.

[John2]

I presume you were talking about King Charles considering you’re respect for Queen Elizabeth?

I have the utmost respect for Queen Elizabeth, but I won't be calling him King Charles because I don't recognise him as my king, and it would be disrespectful in a democracy to expect me to say something I don't mean no matter what any person dead or alive might think of that.

[fc_miller]

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This is the man some people on here want to rule over them and be loyally subservient towards. Fascinating.

I think it says more that the country had voted Boris in, or if you were in the US Bush Jnr or Trump.

Also, how many pens do the staff think he needs, if they have been planning this for years, maybe they should have thought to use a bigger table.