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    What absolute tosh. You have desperately wanted more accountability for the DoF / Head of recruitment and now he is under this arrangement compared to before.

    Of course if it goes bad the coaches will get the push, that?s the setup. That keeps the continuity the owners want. When Hardy was the owner and he was hiring and firing managers, the managers took the fall even though the owner was the blame. That?s football

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomerangpie View Post
    What absolute tosh. You have desperately wanted more accountability for the DoF / Head of recruitment and now he is under this arrangement compared to before.

    Of course if it goes bad the coaches will get the push, that?s the setup. That keeps the continuity the owners want. When Hardy was the owner and he was hiring and firing managers, the managers took the fall even though the owner was the blame. That?s football
    Ive not yet seen a DOF sacked at same time as a manager.

    Put it this way if it goes wrong only one person is getting sacked and it isnt Ricardo.

    The reason we've got MP is down to the fact nobody with a record wants it and why would they, we can all see this surely.

    We just have to hope it goes well but it goes against all logic imo its hard getting 2 people to agree so imagine 7/8 people discussing selection/tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countygump View Post
    This bloke has vast playing and coaching experience.
    Interesting hire, we should wish him and Paterson every success. Get behind them and give them a chance.

    It's not as if there's any going back now. It's done, this is our new coaching team.

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    Edwards clearly the football man with experience, hopefully his input will shine through.

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    Edwards didn't do too well in his coaching / managerial roll at Leyton Orient. Statistics sort of on a par with Paterson at Burton Albion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legs77 View Post
    Ive not yet seen a DOF sacked at same time as a manager.

    Put it this way if it goes wrong only one person is getting sacked and it isnt Ricardo.

    The reason we've got MP is down to the fact nobody with a record wants it and why would they, we can all see this surely.

    We just have to hope it goes well but it goes against all logic imo its hard getting 2 people to agree so imagine 7/8 people discussing selection/tactics.
    I can see what you mean but no-one is allowed to criticise the owners. It seems we are being used as an experiment in new methods by them, which I thought was fair enough to start with but has gone a step too far now. The fact they had to scrape the barrel for a HC shows this is not acceptable to most potential candidates, some of whom would have done a good job.

    By the way, given people have a new site now, please don't feel the need to come down here (not you, obviously) with your 5 user names and tell us what to think. I don't own this site but I am loyal to it. All opinions are welcome here, but suppressing people's opinions is not. Show some respect to other users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legs77 View Post
    Ive not yet seen a DOF sacked at same time as a manager.

    Put it this way if it goes wrong only one person is getting sacked and it isnt Ricardo.

    The reason we've got MP is down to the fact nobody with a record wants it and why would they, we can all see this surely.

    We just have to hope it goes well but it goes against all logic imo it?s hard getting 2 people to agree so imagine 7/8 people discussing selection/tactics.
    Yes and there is a reason a DoF doesn?t get sacked at the same time as a head coach in English football. There is an obvious hierarchy, you don?t want as many DoF changes as a manager or head coach changes! That would?ve madness.

    The number of potential candidates who want to be a head coach only when they traditionally were managers will naturally be much reduced. That goes without saying.

    Fans seem to think they know instantly how the technical panel will work when it reality they don?t. They picture 7 people sat around a table doing a show of hands and never agreeing. In reality they have absolutely no idea just like me and just like you.

    There are negatives an positives to every approach undertaken by clubs. It?s easy to identify both with ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legs77 View Post
    Sorry Maynard is more qualified than this bloke.

    I don't care what level he has played at its BS to bring it up as its all about man management.
    What!? Experience of professional football - there's no comparison.
    And I do think it matters to footballers, it's such a competitive, hierarchical profession.

    Of course there is no direct correlation with management skills. But a coach must have credibility and it's harder for someone to establish that if they have no history in the pro game. Some exceptional individuals cut straight through that, but Paterson will have more credibility than Maynard did.

    It's also useful for us that he's spent the last few years in L1. His input will be good for Gagliardi.

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