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    Quote Originally Posted by rolymiller View Post
    I'm no legal eagle and I'm sure my new buddy will help me out on this but I don t think that the Supreme court is likely to be used in your average day to day disputes as Gfire and Biglad are thinking...
    That's right Rolykins.

    We have a principle in English Law called the legislative supremacy of Parliament. If a Corbyn dominated Parliament passed laws that trashed the UK economy (which, of course, it would), the courts would have no power to stop them

    In strict constitutional law terms, Parliament is actually the highest court in the land.

    Biggie and gf are getting a bit hysterical.

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    The" Blair created" Supreme Court have made their political statement on the outcome today by reversing the decision made by the High court judges.This has a very nasty smell and it is amazing how the multi millionaire Miller can have the influence that she has had.She has used the courts to get her way of trying to derail Brexit.It will backfire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lol'smate View Post
    10 of the 12 Supreme Court judges were invested since 2010 i.e. when the Conservative party were in power. Appointments to the Supreme Court are made by the monarch following advice from the Lord Chancellor. The current Lord Chancellor is a Conservative MP and was appointed by the monarch on the advice of the (Conservative) Prime Minister. Can't think there is much New Labour input there.
    Please don't spoil the 'facts'.
    Last edited by mygiddypant; 24-09-2019 at 11:22 PM.

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    Lets just see what happens next and when the shoe is on the other foot I will piss myself laughing.

    You guys just really dont get what has happened and it is laughable that you think you have won some great victory but all you have done is given the rich and corrupt the keys to the country and your celebrating it. Pitiful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    Crack on tiger.

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    Youve got this the wrong way round.

    MPs are elected by the people to Parliament. Government is the executive arm of Parliament. The Prime Minister is elected by the party (not the people). The PM hand picks his Cabinet. Parliament exists to scrutinise government.

    To prorogue Parliament and carry on with national business goes against our Parliamentary democracy.*

    We voted leave to regain democratic control of the country. What Johnson attempted was to override Parliamentary processes; to the run the country through the unelected executive arm of Parliament. This totally opposes the very basis for why 17m people voted to leave the EU.

    You may not agree with how MPs are going about its business but that is how our democracy works and, surely, why we voted to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    I know that you won't accept it, Biggie and I am not going to engage you in a WanChai style circular argument, but you are plain, vanilla wrong on this.

    The government declined to provide any evidence to the court upon the reason for proroguation. The court had to decide if it had jurisdiction in the matter and then whether the government had acted reasonably and rationally. In the absence of any evidence from the government, the court was entitled to draw its own conclusions.
    You could have told us this before it happened then or at least had an educated guess. Could have made yourself look good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller View Post
    Youve got this the wrong way round.

    MPs are elected by the people to Parliament. Government is the executive arm of Parliament. The Prime Minister is elected by the party (not the people). The PM hand picks his Cabinet. Parliament exists to scrutinise government.

    To prorogue Parliament and carry on with national business goes against our Parliamentary democracy.*

    We voted leave to regain democratic control of the country. What Johnson attempted was to override Parliamentary processes; to the run the country through the unelected executive arm of Parliament. This totally opposes the very basis for why 17m people voted to leave the EU.

    You may not agree with how MPs are going about its business but that is how our democracy works and, surely, why we voted to leave.
    Can you not see the fault in your argument or are you just that stupid?

    We voted to leave so by not leaving and as many MP's as possible trying to stop us leaving then you are trying to defend the undefinable undemocratic shambles we have now. Democracy in this country died on the 29 March 2019 so I would suggest that if you want to talk about lack of democracy you think about that and less about what Boris has done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller View Post
    Crack on tiger.
    Can I just point out that I am engaging in a bit of light hearted banter with Biggie, whereas you are just being vindictive.

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