Nobody getting out of here.

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If this is being replicated throughout the country what chance to the experts have?

The 'experts' are lying though.

[BCram]

The 'experts' are lying though.

I watched a bit of daytime TV. They had an icu nurse who was interviewed. She absolutely rubbished the stories about icu being full of empty beds. She claimed that the staff were working 16 hour days 7 days a week because of staff shortages. There seems to be a wide variation in the amount of activity in icu departments. That's possibly the truth, so both versions of icu activity are correct. The conclusions that you make from this should be that an aggregate of the number of icu occupants expressed as a percentage of the number of beds available in the hospitals should be given. I think that would help to establish a baseline. The actual occupancy of each local hospital could then be given. I would imagine that a high occupancy rate would encourage local residents to try harder to stay safe.

[Taintedice]

I watched a bit of daytime TV. They had an icu nurse who was interviewed. She absolutely rubbished the stories about icu being full of empty beds. She claimed that the staff were working 16 hour days 7 days a week because of staff shortages. There seems to be a wide variation in the amount of activity in icu departments. That's possibly the truth, so both versions of icu activity are correct. The conclusions that you make from this should be that an aggregate of the number of icu occupants expressed as a percentage of the number of beds available in the hospitals should be given. I think that would help to establish a baseline. The actual occupancy of each local hospital could then be given. I would imagine that a high occupancy rate would encourage local residents to try harder to stay safe.

The problem with the covid deniers on here is that they keep switching between Scotland and England, I don't think they know which country they live in tbh. There is relatively little covid in Tayside, because it's an area that is willing to follow Scotgov restrictions. Then you go further west, and people there are more antagonistic towards Scotgov because they like union jacks and bulldog tattoos. So you end up with ICU being packed with covid cases in those regions, and less so in places like Tayside. My dad was in Ninewells for emergency surgery a fortnight ago, taken in on the Friday, assessed Sat morning, operation Sat afternoon, home on Sunday. The NHS is open and it is working, don't believe the covidiots.

RIP to the family in Derby who believed Johnson when he said it was fine to meet up for Christmas and all four of them are now dead.

[Returnofrros]

How will they cope with the General Election for Holyrood? If I was an MSP I would force a vote to delay the election until we were covid free. SNP are in the minority so why don't the others simple apply their democratic power and delay things for a wee while?

The greens are SNP with beards.

Same arse different cheek.

[Returnofrros]

If this is being replicated throughout the country what chance to the experts have?

What do you mean?

[Returnofrros]

What chance of pulling the wool over folks eyes?

Pretty guid as they are backed by MSM, most of the public sector and lunatic politicians.

Remember b cram it is minuted in a meeting between Sage and the govt that in sages opinion "The public weren't frightened enough".

[Returnofrros]

I watched a bit of daytime TV. They had an icu nurse who was interviewed. She absolutely rubbished the stories about icu being full of empty beds. She claimed that the staff were working 16 hour days 7 days a week because of staff shortages. There seems to be a wide variation in the amount of activity in icu departments. That's possibly the truth, so both versions of icu activity are correct. The conclusions that you make from this should be that an aggregate of the number of icu occupants expressed as a percentage of the number of beds available in the hospitals should be given. I think that would help to establish a baseline. The actual occupancy of each local hospital could then be given. I would imagine that a high occupancy rate would encourage local residents to try harder to stay safe.

By "stay safe"....what do you mean?

[BCram]

By "stay safe"....what do you mean?

Following the Facts system

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By "stay safe"....what do you mean?

Wear a hard hat when walking under scaffolding?

[Returnofrros]

Following the Facts system

Lost me, is that a Scottish govt thing?

I thought you meant reliefow or something, Ken when you got to high ground you were safe.