Do The Owners Ambitions Match The Supporters'?

[upthemaggies]

I don't for one moment think that our owners are happy for us to stay at NL level. Genuine owners will want what is best for the club and will want to be successful and play at the highest level possible.

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It is possible they feel they get more satisfaction out of being able to play Football Manager for real, by having their hands on all levers, than allowing somebody else (a manager in the true sense of the word) to bring tangible success which they'd merely be funding as opposed to having full control over.

Maybe they do get more of a kick out of buying and selling a player than the team winning football matches.

Not saying the above is the case, just throwing it out as a possibility. Of course they'd want to get promoted, but maybe it is more of a priority for them to be involved in as many aspects of the game as they possibly can.

[keldsyke]

Off course the owners have ambition this is why they invest millions a season keeping the club alive.
Now if fans want us to go out and spend 300k on a player or 2 then No they dont match the ambitions of those supporters.In reality though how many Notts fans think we can afford that route?
Stability and promotion via good management and coaching rather than boom and bust for me please..
BUILD BACK BETTER !!...to quote a lying tyrant..

Why do some people assume because you say ambition they automatically think spending silly amounts of cash? I don’t think I’ve seen anyone saying we should spend beyond our means. Ambition to me means playing a system with the ability of the players in this league to do what is required to make us serious promotion contenders. Anyone know what Grimsby have spent on transfers this season?

[legs77]

It is possible they feel they get more satisfaction out of being able to play Football Manager for real, by having their hands on all levers, than allowing somebody else (a manager in the true sense of the word) to bring tangible success which they'd merely be funding as opposed to having full control over.

Maybe they do get more of a kick out of buying and selling a player than the team winning football matches.

Not saying the above is the case, just throwing it out as a possibility. Of course they'd want to get promoted, but maybe it is more of a priority for them to be involved in as many aspects of the game as they possibly can.

No its not a possibility at all they are business people like all owners and the only way you earn more is by winning / going up.

They have the same model as Brentford / Swansea it can work but it needs time.

I keep seeing people questioning our owners and im struggling to see why....I mean OAP thief and Smurf are waiting in the wings.

[jackal2]

Why do some people assume because you say ambition they automatically think spending silly amounts of cash? I don’t think I’ve seen anyone saying we should spend beyond our means. Ambition to me means playing a system with the ability of the players in this league to do what is required to make us serious promotion contenders. Anyone know what Grimsby have spent on transfers this season?

If that's what you mean by ambition, then I agree.

We don't need to start playing hoofball or abandoning the idea of playing fast, attractive football, but we need to play in the right areas and in a way that doesn't unnecessarily expose the limitations of players at this level. If we get this right, and add two or three of big animals/beasts/enforcers to the talented players we already have, then we'll have a team that can win games more than one way.

A lot of the time when fans use the word 'ambition', or that other misleading word 'investment', they're basically talking about the club spending more than it can afford, or some rich owner spending money they'll never get back in search of success that can only ever be sustained while they keep on doing it.

Our business model should be to follow in the steps of a club like Luton Town, who had to show a lot of patience when they were stuck in the National League for a while, but eventually got themselves promoted and haven't looked back since, and they haven't spent beyond their means.

[keldsyke]

I keep seeing people questioning our owners and im struggling to see why....

1: We sign a defensive analyst, most goals conceded of all the play off teams this season.

2: Of the seven permanent signings only 2 play a part in the play off match.

3: Worst finish in the play offs since we dropped out the league.

4: The coach we hired naffs off after a year as he’s obviously not brought in to the ‘big picture’

[laddo]

Why do some people assume because you say ambition they automatically think spending silly amounts of cash? I don’t think I’ve seen anyone saying we should spend beyond our means. Ambition to me means playing a system with the ability of the players in this league to do what is required to make us serious promotion contenders. Anyone know what Grimsby have spent on transfers this season?

I've seen people say we need to spend more on players to match the other big spenders in division.

I don't but I do know it's a lot less than Wrexham and Chesterfield.

[upthemaggies]

No its not a possibility at all they are business people like all owners and the only way you earn more is by winning / going up.

They have the same model as Brentford / Swansea it can work but it needs time.

I keep seeing people questioning our owners and im struggling to see why....I mean OAP thief and Smurf are waiting in the wings.

63 posts before somebody mentioned Brentford.
Well I suppose that might serve as some sort of indication that people are beginning to realise something ain't right as the mention of that club would have come up well before now in a discussion of this sort a year or two ago.

[jackal2]

If you are talking about [the owners] sacking him after the Grimsby result, I don't think they would have.

They weren't impressed when I sat behind them....

I shouldn't think they were!

[laddo]

1: We sign a defensive analyst, most goals conceded of all the play off teams this season.

2: Of the seven permanent signings only 2 play a part in the play off match.

3: Worst finish in the play offs since we dropped out the league.

4: The coach we hired naffs off after a year as he’s obviously not brought in to the ‘big picture’

1: Shouldn't that criticism be aimed at the defensive analyst or the head of recruitment not the owners?

2: That's a little surprising and disappointing to read. That's quite the stat. Although the side we started with against Grimsby was my starting XI so no complaints.

3: Damn you Richardson and that silly needless push with 30 seconds to go. Again not really the owners.

4: The coach was headhunted by a side who have just been promoted to L1 and likely had a tidy pay rise. That should be a positive and
attract praise, not a negative critisism. That action from FGR should be seen as a compliment to the head coach, the football he played, and that piece of recruitment.

[jacobncfc]

Why do some people assume because you say ambition they automatically think spending silly amounts of cash? I don’t think I’ve seen anyone saying we should spend beyond our means. Ambition to me means playing a system with the ability of the players in this league to do what is required to make us serious promotion contenders. Anyone know what Grimsby have spent on transfers this season?

Similar to us. Maybe slightly more with the parachute payments. Hence we ended up with teams of similar quality, beat each other once and then had a play-off game that came down to the last 10 seconds. That’s football innit.