📝 And we waited all day for this? [Jevani Brown signs]

[51Magpie]

Not talking about this particular case because I don’t know the details, but I always wonder why alcohol consumption is considered a mitigating factor in this sort of situation.

That makes at least two of us!

[Woodypie]

I don’t really know the answer to this, that’s why I asked. If I get smacked in the face by someone and get say a broken jaw, it’s no consolation to me that they only did cos they were pissed. My jaw’s still broken.

If you’re prone to violence when drunk then don’t get drunk or stay in. If you can’t help drinking, then get help.

Anyway this lad has committed his crime and done his ‘time’. I’ll give him a clap when he makes his debut just like anyone else.

I won't.

[OchPie]

I was a lot more comfortable before I read his post-court statement, which seemed to blame the victims for being racist (although that didn't seem to come up in court at all) and thus didn't feel like there was all that much contrition.

[since41]

A more exact and balanced view:

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon...apping-8582592

In part:

A statement from Brown's partner described him as a 'very calm, gentle and quiet' man who has never raised his voice or showed signs of violence within the relationship.

Mr Hector said it would be difficult for Brown to do community work as he played professional football, including games away from home. He said the defendant already gave his time helping to coach young people and engaging in community activity.

District Judge Stuart Smith said: "This incident is clearly out of character as you are usually kind, gentle and laid-back. No doubt alcohol played a significant part contributing to your behaviour on this day."

But he said Brown's reaction to the argument was excessive and his violence left the woman with red marks across the side of her face.

"This will be a blemish on your previous good character," he added. "As a professional footballer you are a role model to many thousands of young people with a great influence on their decisions and lives.

So not a nice incident - but in the words of one famous personality " He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

Let's give the boy a chance eh. Expect him to be involved in the Notts Foundation, send him back if he proves to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Did she pull his dreadlocks before he slapped her if she did that is violence against him.
Anyway, the clubs made a decision so good luck to him putting it behind him.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Not talking about this particular case because I don’t know the details, but I always wonder why alcohol consumption is considered a mitigating factor in this sort of situation.

Because it is a mind altering drug I suppose..?

[OchPie]

He's in now. Been thinking about what's next.

I assume there'll be an interview with him soon. I think it'll be a disaster if this isn't brought up.

On the other hand if he comes across as truly sorry, explains what he's learned from it and how he's taken steps so it never happens again, and reaffirms his commitment to helping Notts move forward, I'll accept him. Nobody has no skeletons in their closet. I believe in second chances.

[slack_pie]

I won't.

Did you celebrate when Lee Hughes scored? I did. He's one of my all-time favourite players.

People mess up. They deserve a chance to prove they've changed. This is Brown's chance.

[drillerpie]

Did she pull his dreadlocks before he slapped her if she did that is violence against him.
Anyway, the clubs made a decision so good luck to him putting it behind him.

If he was having a heated discussion with a bouncer and the lady started getting all up in his grille and pulling his dreadlocks then you might understand why he slapped her, but after reading a bit about it I don't think that's what happened. He probably wouldn't have got fined 7k for that. At least you would hope not.

What it sounds like is he probably had some unresolved issues which were causing him to drink heavily and lead an inappropriate lifestyle. I know he's a young lad but ideally you wouldn't want a professional athlete in nightclubs arguing with bouncers in the first place.

You would hope that this was a low point that genuinely made him realise he had a problem with alcohol. The 'seeking help' thing can be a part of the PR play book as was mentioned the other day about Jenas. Alternatively it can actually be true - lots of people (especially in the UK where boozing culture is more prevalent than other parts of the world) have issues with drinking that only really get solved (or even recognised as a problem) when their behaviour starts to get out of hand. If he's used that as a catalyst to get help with whatever problems he was having then more power to him.

So he did what he did. As I said last night, either the bros have decided to 1) break with every precedent they've set like signing clean cut solid pros and devout Christians, and take a total gamble on a heavy drinking woman beating loose cannon, when we are not even desparate for a striker, or 2) they've done their background checks and are satisfied he's made the necessary changes to his lifestyle and wants to turn things around. It's one or the other and I'm pretty sure it isn't number 1.

Everyone has their own view of course but personally I think he's a good signing.

[LeftPeg_Pie]

I won't.

Similar to Mapperley. Woody, I 100% respect your stance on this.

How did you deal with/reconcile with Lee Hughes signing for Notts, what he did and how successful he was?

[TSANHO]

I like this signing. I’ve seen him play a handful of times and he will fit into our system and way of playing well I think, especially in the regard of how we could use him to impact games as a squad player. If we do play him as a winger he’ll be a valuable option to have and offers something different to what we don’t have at the minute.

He’s also got a lot of experience, and to those who worry about his character - we have an option to cancel come January. We’ve done some great business this summer, as well as keeping Jones and Crowley….and also money in the bank to strengthen for an assault on league one next season!