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[islaydarkblue]

Agree that having Green politicians seems to mean that we are shooting ourselves in the foot. Maybe having loads of coal and oil and gas still in the ground will benefit future generations of British people.

Unfortunately the current generation of British people are paying a high price thanks to the tinpot ideas by ‘tree hugging’ senior civil servants at both Westminster and Holyrood.
We would have much cheaper electricity in the U.K. if we had continued building nuclear power stations which happened in France but the bampot SNP controlled Scottish Government have stated that no new nuclear power stations will be built in Scotland.
As far as I am aware energy policy and the building of new power stations in Scotland has not been devolved to the Scottish Government at Holyrood.

[Returnofrros]

Islay there was a green nutcase in the paper this week defending Dundee lez zone by claiming it was needed as Dundee had tall buildings and wasn't windy to clear the fumes. 😄

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Islay there was a green nutcase in the paper this week defending Dundee lez zone by claiming it was needed as Dundee had tall buildings and wasn't windy to clear the fumes. ��

I saw that nutjob on TV.

I'd say you couldn't make that stuff up but quite clearly, someone can.

[islaydarkblue]

Islay there was a green nutcase in the paper this week defending Dundee lez zone by claiming it was needed as Dundee had tall buildings and wasn't windy to clear the fumes. 😄

There would never have been a problem with fumes from vehicles in the Seagate if the Dundee City Councillors had left the Seagate as one way. However that involves common sense which is sadly lacking amongst the Dundee City Councillors.
The busiest roads in Dundee namely East Marketgait and Lochee Road are not even situated in the LEZ zone because the civil servants who drew up the LEZ zone in Dundee only selected streets within the inner ring road instead of doing their homework.
The dozy Dundee City Councillors gave Marks and Spencers planning permission to move from the Seagate to the Gallagher Retail Park which has resulted in traffic chaos and greatly increased emissions because unlike the previous Marks and Spencer store in the Seagate the Gallagher Retail Park is poorly served by the Xplore Dundee bus services.
My wife who used to get the Xplore Dundee bus to the Seagate cannot drive.
I now have to give her lift to the new Marks and Spencer store in the Gallagher Retail Park, drive home and wait for her phone call to collect her after she has finished her shopping.
The SNP ministers keep banging on about people stopping using their cars and using public transport but this policy does not appear to have reached the controlling group of SNP councillors in the City Chambers in the City Square.

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My wife who used to get the Xplore Dundee bus to the Seagate cannot drive.
I now have to give her lift to the new Marks and Spencer store in the Gallagher Retail Park, drive home and wait for her phone call to collect her after she has finished her shopping.

You don't 'HAVE TO' give your poor, long suffering wife a lift to Gallagher Retail Park, that's what's called a choice i.e. you choose to give the poor woman a lift because the truth is that there are bus stops nearby.

There are two bus stop within a five minute walk of Gallacher retail park, one at Wishart Centre and one on Seagate across from the bus station.

If I was her I'd choose to get away from you by taking a bus to the Wishart Centre stop, or alternatively if her bus doesn't go that way a bus into town and a 5 or 5A back down Seagate to the bus station, then walking the short distance to M&S. The short respite from you would be bliss since I can only imagine the drive from your house to, well anywhere, with you would verge on being a total nightmare.

You'd then be able to say you're doing your bit for the environment and to reduce the supposedly high levels of pollution in Dundee City Centre by halving the number of trips you make to and from M&S. The SNP will love you.

[islaydarkblue]

You don't 'HAVE TO' give your poor, long suffering wife a lift to Gallagher Retail Park, that's what's called a choice i.e. you choose to give the poor woman a lift because the truth is that there are bus stops nearby.

There are two bus stop within a five minute walk of Gallacher retail park, one at Wishart Centre and one on Seagate across from the bus station.

If I was her I'd choose to get away from you by taking a bus to the Wishart Centre stop, or alternatively if her bus doesn't go that way a bus into town and a 5 or 5A back down Seagate to the bus station, then walking the short distance to M&S. The short respite from you would be bliss since I can only imagine the drive from your house to, well anywhere, with you would verge on being a total nightmare.

You'd then be able to say you're doing your bit for the environment and to reduce the supposedly high levels of pollution in Dundee City Centre by halving the number of trips you make to and from M&S. The SNP will love you.

I have a message for you from my wife.
I am 75 years old, cannot drive because of poor eyesight and have sore knees.
My wife was born ten weeks premature in 1949 weighing less than two pounds in weight. She was a twin but her brother did not survive.
Her optic nerve did not spilt resulting in my wife only having sight in her right eye.
There was no special care baby unit in DRI in 1949.

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I have a message for you from my wife.
I am 75 years old, cannot drive because of poor eyesight and have sore knees.
My wife was born ten weeks premature in 1949 weighing less than two pounds in weight. She was a twin but her brother did not survive.
Her optic nerve did not spilt resulting in my wife only having sight in her right eye.
There was no special care baby unit in DRI in 1949.

I'm sure your wife is a lovely lady and she must have the patience of a saint to tolerate you. However that has what to do with getting on a bus?

[Mainlanddee]

There would never have been a problem with fumes from vehicles in the Seagate if the Dundee City Councillors had left the Seagate as one way. However that involves common sense which is sadly lacking amongst the Dundee City Councillors.
The busiest roads in Dundee namely East Marketgait and Lochee Road are not even situated in the LEZ zone because the civil servants who drew up the LEZ zone in Dundee only selected streets within the inner ring road instead of doing their homework.
The dozy Dundee City Councillors gave Marks and Spencers planning permission to move from the Seagate to the Gallagher Retail Park which has resulted in traffic chaos and greatly increased emissions because unlike the previous Marks and Spencer store in the Seagate the Gallagher Retail Park is poorly served by the Xplore Dundee bus services.
My wife who used to get the Xplore Dundee bus to the Seagate cannot drive.
I now have to give her lift to the new Marks and Spencer store in the Gallagher Retail Park, drive home and wait for her phone call to collect her after she has finished her shopping.
The SNP ministers keep banging on about people stopping using their cars and using public transport but this policy does not appear to have reached the controlling group of SNP councillors in the City Chambers in the City Square.

Why would M&S apply for planning permission for a building that's already there ,change of use maybe, but was originally a sports shop , so they could hardly say it was unsuitable to be come a shop once more

[islaydarkblue]

Why would M&S apply for planning permission for a building that's already there ,change of use maybe, but was originally a sports shop , so they could hardly say it was unsuitable to be come a shop once more

There are numerous people in Dundee complaining about M & S moving from the Murraygate to the Gallagher Retail park. However the Dundee Coty Councillors are not interested in them.
However these same useless councillors will soon change their tune when other shops in the centre of Dundee including the Murraygate close down due to a lack of footfall resulting in a loss of business rates going into the Council’s coffers.

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There are numerous people in Dundee complaining about M & S moving from the Murraygate to the Gallagher Retail park. However the Dundee Coty Councillors are not interested in them.
However these same useless councillors will soon change their tune when other shops in the centre of Dundee including the Murraygate close down due to a lack of footfall resulting in a loss of business rates going into the Council’s coffers.

Excuse my ignorance on this matter but what has M&S relocating to a modern facility at Gallacher Retail Park from their previous locations at Murraygate and Gallagher Retail Park got to do with Dundee Council? Did they force them to move? I've noticed a tendency for M&S to move away from city centres to modern shopping centres in other cities, is this not a corporate strategy rather than something being forced on them by councillors who can't be bothered?