O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[frogmiller]

Corbyn can't call a motion of no confidence till he's got the DUP on side

Do you think that they'd come on board if he demanded the vote or is that a risk too far. It looks like he's waiting for a one horse race before he places his bet0

[BigLadonOS]

I dont think she really has the option to take it back to another peoples vote Animal. She said that she wants to deliver Brexit to the nation and the only way she can do that is to take us out with NO DEAL like she should have done when she found out the EU were not going to give us anything.

[KerrAvon]

So, the labour party democracy once again miffs you, and yes, it's evolved, but what's also clear is that if there was another vote, remaining in the EU wouldn't be an option on the ballot paper, only on the deal offered........please keep up, your hatred of the Labour party is shining through, you're increasingly becoming GF2.....

I don't have any problem with the Labour Parry democracy that changed their policy . It's the people who voted for them in 2017 believing that they had one policy only to see them change it that is the issue. Where's the democracy there?

[millmoormagic]

I don't have any problem with the Labour Parry democracy that changed their policy . It's the people who voted for them in 2017 believing that they had one policy only to see them change it that is the issue. Where's the democracy there?

You quite obviously do have a problem, once again you've changed tack to suit your argument, it's what you do, you've done it across this whole thread, you do it across every subject...the labour party is the most democratic of all the political party's, and it's policies will of course be amended or added to year on year, through it's membership, via the conference.

[ragingpup]

I don't have any problem with the Labour Parry democracy that changed their policy . It's the people who voted for them in 2017 believing that they had one policy only to see them change it that is the issue. Where's the democracy there?

Is the UK position today the same as June 2017? Haven't you noticed any changes?

[KerrAvon]

Where have i changed tack? Show me.

I'm not interested in Labour Party democracy. The whole point of my postings on the point is about the people who voted Labour upon the basis of one policy - respect for the referendum result - who are now getting something else - support for a second referendum.

You have tried to argue that there has been no change of policy - calling adventus a liar for suggesting otherwise - but now seem to accept that there has been (progress!) , but say it's ok, because Labour changed it via internal democratic processes. How does that help the leavers who voted Labour last year?

[WanChaiMiller]

The worst brexiteers for me are those that take full advantage of the benefits of the EU yet voted out. Total hipocrites.

20 years ago the parents of a guy I know retired to Spain. The sister (daughter) and her family moved with them. They took full advantage of the 4 freedoms the EU offer buying a house, easy unrestricted travel, free health care and collect their pension from the local service till. This was once a poor region of Spain that built a tourist ecocomy on the back of EU Regional development grants (like very many other Mediterranian towns) that part funded the airport, road and rail links, hotels and the beach front.

Yet the whole family voted leave!!

[KerrAvon]

The worst brexiteers for me are those that take full advantage of the benefits of the EU yet voted out. Total hipocrites.

20 years ago the parents of a guy I know retired to Spain. The sister (daughter) and her family moved with them. They took full advantage of the 4 freedoms the EU offer buying a house, easy unrestricted travel, free health care and collect their pension from the local service till. This was once a poor region of Spain that built a tourist ecocomy on the back of EU Regional development grants (like very many other Mediterranian towns) that part funded the airport, road and rail links, hotels and the beach front.

Yet the whole family voted leave!!

So if they moved there 20 years ago, how did their get to vote? How did they get round the 15 year limit?

[WanChaiMiller]

So if they moved there 20 years ago, how did their get to vote? How did they get round the 15 year limit?

They are in the mid 70s so not sure the 20 year figure is correct. But will check with them the exact date they left and get back to you. Dates and exact timing aside the whole family are on my facebook news feed championing Brexit.

[KerrAvon]

Is the UK position today the same as June 2017? Haven't you noticed any changes?

Are these random question? It's colder and the trees aren't in leaf are too obvious differences from where I'm sitting. We are still in the EU, however, which is the point.

Any news on the technical details of your alignment plan? I know a number of MPs including a member of the Labour front bench and can pass the details on for you.