📝 New Manager [Luke Williams Appointed]

[uysapie]

The old idea was POMO, position of maximum opportunity. Play as much as possible in the opponent's half.

[jackal2]

The old idea was POMO, position of maximum opportunity. Play as much as possible in the opponent's half.

Absolutely. That phrase became associated with Wimbledon's 'route one' style of play, but it doesn't have to been seen that way. Nottingham Forest under Brian Clough became regarded as the best passing team in the country, but I don't remember his teams messing about with the ball in their own half. He would have done his nut, because clean sheets were his holy grail. He used to tell most of his defenders they couldn't play, so pass it forward to someone who can play (like John Robertson) ASAP.

[Magpies1959]

I think to be fair to the players at the back who might seem to be just keeping possession, maybe more work needs to be done with the midfield or strikers to make a pass is available quicker. I am sure they do not prat about with it for the sake of it.
I think it shows great resolve from the players to keep playing with control, when it would be easier to panic and play hoofball. How often do you hear coaches complaining their players lost the plot after going a goal or two down. LW has shown the ability to change things up if and when necessary.
I do understand fans do have differing levels of patience, but hopefully now this booing issue has been channelled positively going forward.

[Elite_Pie]

I think it shows great resolve from the players to keep playing with control, when it would be easier to panic and play hoofball.

Not aimed at you 1959 because I know it's not what you were saying, but it does give me the opportunity to address a common misconception on here. That misconception is that anyone who dislikes tippy-tappy in our own half has to be an advocate of hoofball. It's not an 'either or' thing, there is a middle ground. In pre-season against Leicester and Forest we played a possession style game but also moved it quickly through the thirds and looked dangerous. I'd like to see more of that.

The bloke who is regularly criticised for playing hoofball on here is Steve Thompson. That was without doubt his style, but it was the only option with the players he cobbled together at the last minute. It wasn't for the purist, but it was effective. Midfield was bypassed, the tactic was to hit it long to Jason Lee and feed off his layoffs. At least it led to goalmouth action at both ends. The most mind-numbingly boring football I've ever witnessed was the 'passing style' from his replacement Ian McParland. Basically, that consisted of playing it repeatedly across the back four before hoofing it forward. It gave the opposition so long to get organised that it was quite common for us to go an entire half without an attempt on goal.

[The_Don_ORiordan]

And that’s it in a nutshell. It’s not hoofball versus tippy tappy. It’s being effective with the style you use, and if it isn’t working adapting it a little.

[Magpies1959]

I wonder if the football we played against Leicester and Florist was possible because they were pre season games, and because of the style they played. I would love us to play the way we did against those two teams.

[i961pie]

It's bleddy boring to watch.

True and it does nothing for your heart rate when you see an attacker charging at our keeper who just manages to clear it.😨

[jackal2]

Ardleyball and Burchball wasn't identical by any means, but it did involve far too much possession in our own half and particularly in the defensive third, and it failed to win us promotion three times. So far, the brand of football under Luke Williams has looked similar.

Luke Williams made an excellent point that Notts fans do not come along wanting to boo their team, but I think the Chesterfield game was a watershed moment where a lot of supporters finally let the players, the manager and the club know that they had well and truly had their fill of seeing the ball retained in the wrong areas for too long, with needless backwards/sideways passes when there was space to exploit or targets available to hit.

I do have considerably sympathy for the current Head Coach, who had the misfortune to face this booing after only four games in charge, but hopefully he realises that it was a reaction that has been gradually building up over three years, and whoever is dictating the style of play at the club needs to appreciate the significance of it.

As The_Don_O'Riordan says:

It’s not hoofball versus tippy tappy. It’s being effective with the style you use, and if it isn’t working adapting it a little.

It's a complete myth that sides coached by Neil Warnock and Sam Allardyce played hoofball. Both managers had some very talented players at their disposal and they both played in a way that gave these players freedom to pass and dribble the ball in the right areas, but they didn't invite pressure and give silly goals away by doing it just inside and outside our own penalty area.

[Glad2BeAPie]

He stated he wanted to play possession football like I.B did, but to overpower teams going forward.
He was lying

[countygump]

He stated he wanted to play possession football like I.B did, but to overpower teams going forward.
He was lying

Well rather than him being a ''liar'', let's just hope it's taking a bit of time for him to get it organised.