Is recruitment likely to drive ground improvement

[animallittle3]

Whoever buys the club (assuming PMG want art) will arrive here again with no association or affiliation with Barnsley and ittull be ding ding rarnd two. You'll be going over the same issues that you have for the last 4 years.

This lot will want at least a 10m purchase price for any prospective buyer. Then thaz got complications wi stadium issue and James Crynes 25%. A can't see the club ever being owned again by English people. A just hope we dunt get a Chansiri type who potentially destroys the lot. The PMG ev their faults but they're not mounting up millions in debt and we are a comfortable championship side moving under our own steam looking upwards rather than downwards. Sometimes thaz got to be careful what tha wishes fo.

At least with Cryne and Beane you'd have the continuation of the present model Pass and minus the unsavoury Conway .

Conway seems at least in my opinion the runt in the litter and the cause of so much friction around the club .

I agree it's highly unlikely the club will ever be locally owned again and so that very fact has to be accepted .

[pass_and_move]

At least with Cryne and Beane you'd have the continuation of the present model Pass and minus the unsavoury Conway .

Conway seems at least in my opinion the runt in the litter and the cause of so much friction around the club .

I agree it's highly unlikely the club will ever be locally owned again and so that very fact has to be accepted .

The cynic inside me fears that although some may rejoice in the departure of Conway, it doesn't necessarily mean summat better is around the corner.

[Arblasterfromthepast]

The cynic inside me fears that although some may rejoice in the departure of Conway, it doesn't necessarily mean summat better is around the corner.

I agree there Pass. We've got to be very careful what we wish for otherwise SB could end up copying and pasting his previous posts replacing PMG with XYZ...

[SBRed48]

I agree there Pass. We've got to be very careful what we wish for otherwise SB could end up copying and pasting his previous posts replacing PMG with XYZ...

Unlikely as my IT skills don't stretch to copy and paste.
I agree with Animal that gaining full control of the Oakwell stadium and surrounding land with "clean title" ie with no hinderences to stop them doing what they wish, is the key issue. Luckily they haven't achieved that so take your profits and go Conway

Get Rid of Conway and-- BUILD BACK BETTER !

(That annoying little Thakur has gone on 60 but India are ovva 300 ahead )

[pass_and_move]

(That annoying little Thakur has gone on 60 but India are ovva 300 ahead )

Thuz abart as much chance o Conway leaving as England ev o winning this test match.

[animallittle3]

I agree entirely that you do indeed have to be careful what you wish for .

You only have to look at the current state of Arsenal since Wenger was hounded out by the fans for proof of that .

However I think it's fair to say the consortium are looking to leave because I've never known ESR not be right when he's revealed things on the forum .

What's more they haven't been hounded out they are selling the club and that's their decision alone .

The ownership of the stadium and surrounding land appears to be the catalyst for this decision and clearly that was central to their plans .

It looks like they've accepted the fact they won't ever own the job lot 100% .

I do also believe leaving the European Union is a factor because it's now more difficult to do business in the EU and is a key market for them here with player recruitment .

They can trade to their hearts content with the other clubs they own within the EU and there's some kind of strategy that links this multi club philosophy that possibly doesn't quite fit here post brexit .

I take the point Pass made about ourselves sitting one league away from the richest on the planet and a key to increasing the clubs value for the consortium .

I don't personally believe myself that is the reason they bought the club although I wouldn't think they'd turn their noses up either , if it happened fine if it doesn't then so what .

There was something I heard but I can't for the life remember where I heard it but I know it was Dane Murphy who said it , may have been a podcast I heard .

He said that the consortium believe the tv deals will increase massively in the years to come which will make all their clubs especially ours more valuable so just as long as they are run under a self sufficiency system they consortium could be looking at profits of several millions of pounds without doing anything financially themselves .

Whether that happens is debatable of course .

[Arblasterfromthepast]

I agree entirely that you do indeed have to be careful what you wish for .

You only have to look at the current state of Arsenal since Wenger was hounded out by the fans for proof of that .

However I think it's fair to say the consortium are looking to leave because I've never known ESR not be right when he's revealed things on the forum .

What's more they haven't been hounded out they are selling the club and that's their decision alone .

The ownership of the stadium and surrounding land appears to be the catalyst for this decision and clearly that was central to their plans .

It looks like they've accepted the fact they won't ever own the job lot 100% .

I do also believe leaving the European Union is a factor because it's now more difficult to do business in the EU and is a key market for them here with player recruitment .

They can trade to their hearts content with the other clubs they own within the EU and there's some kind of strategy that links this multi club philosophy that possibly doesn't quite fit here post brexit .

I take the point Pass made about ourselves sitting one league away from the richest on the planet and a key to increasing the clubs value for the consortium .

I don't personally believe myself that is the reason they bought the club although I wouldn't think they'd turn their noses up either , if it happened fine if it doesn't then so what .

There was something I heard but I can't for the life remember where I heard it but I know it was Dane Murphy who said it , may have been a podcast I heard .

He said that the consortium believe the tv deals will increase massively in the years to come which will make all their clubs especially ours more valuable so just as long as they are run under a self sufficiency system they consortium could be looking at profits of several millions of pounds without doing anything financially themselves .

Whether that happens is debatable of course .

I don't believe in journalists that can't copy and paste SB :-)

Very good examples are Arsenal and Leicester Animal. The best examples of how and how not to do it.

I don't know why PMG bought Barnsley FC. It has something to do with a plan within European football but the nature of the plan still isn't clear to me. I'm not sure that Brexit makes a difference to that plan Yes it's more difficult to bring EU footballers into the club but not impossible. If they do want to make money, then a team in the EFL/Premier league is the way to do it; not in some less well known European league (and yes I know that they made some cash on the French club that they sold but there aren't that many Ineos Jim's about).

I have no reason to doubt what ESR says either because I've noticed over time he is a very reliable source of information.

I hear what people say about the owners buying Barnsley/Oakwell because of the land (and yes SB I know they are reported not to have bought either yet). However, I don't see PMG buying Barnsley FC purely because of the land around Oakwell. They're a sports group not developers. Sport is their business. Before they bought Barnsley, I believe that they were considering buying other clubs including Middlesbrough. I'm not aware, in Middlesbrough's case, whether they have land available for development; I suspect they haven't because the Riverside is a relatively new stadium. I'm sure the reason that they didn't buy Middlesbrough had nothing to do with the lack of availability of land for development.

If they go, they go having moved us forward from where we were when they bought us. I'm not really sure who would want to buy us though because in the current financial climate, any would be investors, probably have the chance to buy a number of other clubs at bargain prices. Is a new owner going to be better? It's down to pot luck in my view and as you say, there's no way the fans can influence that.

Understanding why they bought Barnsley FC is the key to understanding what may happen next. Unfortunately, I've not seen or heard or understood why they did buy Barnsley and we're almost 4 years? into the tenure.

[Arblasterfromthepast]

I agree entirely that you do indeed have to be careful what you wish for .

You only have to look at the current state of Arsenal since Wenger was hounded out by the fans for proof of that .

However I think it's fair to say the consortium are looking to leave because I've never known ESR not be right when he's revealed things on the forum .

What's more they haven't been hounded out they are selling the club and that's their decision alone .

The ownership of the stadium and surrounding land appears to be the catalyst for this decision and clearly that was central to their plans .

It looks like they've accepted the fact they won't ever own the job lot 100% .

I do also believe leaving the European Union is a factor because it's now more difficult to do business in the EU and is a key market for them here with player recruitment .

They can trade to their hearts content with the other clubs they own within the EU and there's some kind of strategy that links this multi club philosophy that possibly doesn't quite fit here post brexit .

I take the point Pass made about ourselves sitting one league away from the richest on the planet and a key to increasing the clubs value for the consortium .

I don't personally believe myself that is the reason they bought the club although I wouldn't think they'd turn their noses up either , if it happened fine if it doesn't then so what .

There was something I heard but I can't for the life remember where I heard it but I know it was Dane Murphy who said it , may have been a podcast I heard .

He said that the consortium believe the tv deals will increase massively in the years to come which will make all their clubs especially ours more valuable so just as long as they are run under a self sufficiency system they consortium could be looking at profits of several millions of pounds without doing anything financially themselves .

Whether that happens is debatable of course .

I don't believe in journalists that can't copy and paste SB :-)

Very good examples are Arsenal and Leicester Animal. The best examples of how and how not to do it.

I don't know why PMG bought Barnsley FC. It has something to do with a plan within European football but the nature of the plan still isn't clear to me. I'm not sure that Brexit makes a difference to that plan Yes it's more difficult to bring EU footballers into the club but not impossible. If they do want to make money, then a team in the EFL/Premier league is the way to do it; not in some less well known European league (and yes I know that they made some cash on the French club that they sold but there aren't that many Ineos Jim's about).

I have no reason to doubt what ESR says either because I've noticed over time he is a very reliable source of information.

I hear what people say about the owners buying Barnsley/Oakwell because of the land (and yes SB I know they are reported not to have bought either yet). However, I don't see PMG buying Barnsley FC purely because of the land around Oakwell. They're a sports group not developers. Sport is their business. Before they bought Barnsley, I believe that they were considering buying other clubs including Middlesbrough. I'm not aware, in Middlesbrough's case, whether they have land available for development; I suspect they haven't because the Riverside is a relatively new stadium. I'm sure the reason that they didn't buy Middlesbrough had nothing to do with the lack of availability of land for development.

If they go, they go having moved us forward from where we were when they bought us. I'm not really sure who would want to buy us though because in the current financial climate, any would be investors, probably have the chance to buy a number of other clubs at bargain prices. Is a new owner going to be better? It's down to pot luck in my view and as you say, there's no way the fans can influence that.

Understanding why they bought Barnsley FC is the key to understanding what may happen next. Unfortunately, I've not seen or heard or understood why they did buy Barnsley and we're almost 4 years? into the tenure.

[SBRed48]

I don't believe in journalists that can't copy and paste SB :-)

Very good examples are Arsenal and Leicester Animal. The best examples of how and how not to do it.

I don't know why PMG bought Barnsley FC. It has something to do with a plan within European football but the nature of the plan still isn't clear to me. I'm not sure that Brexit makes a difference to that plan Yes it's more difficult to bring EU footballers into the club but not impossible. If they do want to make money, then a team in the EFL/Premier league is the way to do it; not in some less well known European league (and yes I know that they made some cash on the French club that they sold but there aren't that many Ineos Jim's about).

I have no reason to doubt what ESR says either because I've noticed over time he is a very reliable source of information.

I hear what people say about the owners buying Barnsley/Oakwell because of the land (and yes SB I know they are reported not to have bought either yet). However, I don't see PMG buying Barnsley FC purely because of the land around Oakwell. They're a sports group not developers. Sport is their business. Before they bought Barnsley, I believe that they were considering buying other clubs including Middlesbrough. I'm not aware, in Middlesbrough's case, whether they have land available for development; I suspect they haven't because the Riverside is a relatively new stadium. I'm sure the reason that they didn't buy Middlesbrough had nothing to do with the lack of availability of land for development.

If they go, they go having moved us forward from where we were when they bought us. I'm not really sure who would want to buy us though because in the current financial climate, any would be investors, probably have the chance to buy a number of other clubs at bargain prices. Is a new owner going to be better? It's down to pot luck in my view and as you say, there's no way the fans can influence that.

Understanding why they bought Barnsley FC is the key to understanding what may happen next. Unfortunately, I've not seen or heard or understood why they did buy Barnsley and we're almost 4 years? into the tenure.

These charlatans are not a sports group Arbs. They are a Consortium of varied business interests-

Chien Lee-owner of New City Capital--Venture Capital, Hospitality (mainly hotel chains) Asset Management and Development
Paul "Arseoyle" Conway--co owner of Pacific Media Group based in Hong Kong--distribution of a variety of media globally
Grace Hung--co owner and President of PMG
Neerav Parekh--Mumbai based data company called v Phrase

[Jules88]

“However I think it's fair to say the consortium are looking to leave because I've never known ESR not be right when he's revealed things on the forum .“

read ESR post and turned to Mrs Jules and said the EXACT same words