Official Sam Nombe is here

[Walt]

What a fatuous argument. Bare facts with no context or perspective whatsoever. We'll never know how PWs team would have finished up had he not left, but leave he did leaving the club in a likely perilous position. Your whole argument presupposes that Warne's team would have maintained some form at least as good as what Taylor's did. It may have been worse and we'd have been relegated! We certainly didn't look like maintaining that early season point haul...but you never know, we might have rode our luck all season and won the league....who knows?!!!!

To call Taylor a "disaster" is typical of the knee-jerk, emotional/panicky schoolgirl crap that we regularly get on here. Nobody can argue about the points haul so far but the whole club and team has a much more positive and professional feel about it. FFs give the man some time and support before making such critical statements. He's had nowhere near enough time to make his mark.

I didn't make any counterfactual claims about what would have happened if Warne had stayed, I merely pointed out the club record under MT is not good enough

The form over MT's 40 league and 44 league and cup games is bottom of the league form, even with the win over Norwich, even with the most expensive team in the club's history
If we hadn't had such a good start under Warne, then the MT results last season would have taken us down
just looking at league games MT's record for us is now P 40, 36 points, GD -22
That's what I'm judging him on

That said, I'll say again that I think that defence and midfield is good enough to stay up this season

[Beaufighter]

And now, the most expensive Rotherham team in history, has lost 4 and drawn 2 this season

I don’t think EFL rules allow you to go back in time and win games you’ve already played for breaking your transfer record. “The most expensive” team in our history hasn’t played any games yet, and will likely need a bit of time to bed in. But I have a feeling they aren’t going to get it from you.

[millertop]

I don’t think EFL rules allow you to go back in time and win games you’ve already played for breaking your transfer record. “The most expensive” team in our history hasn’t played any games yet, and will likely need a bit of time to bed in. But I have a feeling they aren’t going to get it from you.

We’ve also played 4 games, not sure why hes fetching cup into it when there was fringe players

[millersrus]

Facts are facts, whoever posts them
Taylor has been a disaster so far
When PW left, we had 18 points from 11 games, and a GD of +7
We finished the season with 32 points from the remaining 35 games and a GD of -18
The form over those games was so bad that if we'd performed like that over the entire season, we'd have been relegated (Wigan would have finished just below us ONLY because of the points deduction)
And now, the most expensive Rotherham team in history, has lost 4 and drawn 2 this season

That's why I'm negative about Taylor....
But if that's what you want from a manager, that's your choice.....

Facts or facts…
Paul warne left after the middlesborough Match, game 9, we had only 14 points.
Matt Taylor first day in charge was against Millwall.

If you look at the points from then we weren't relegated and still wouldn’t have been relegated even allowing for the points deductions.

Before the Millwall game…
Reading were 7 points ahead of us. ( finished 6 points behind ) give them back the 6 points deduction, still 7 points less during Matt Taylor time.
Wigan were 2 points ahead of us. ( finished 8 points behind ) give them 3 points deduction, still 7 points behind.
Blackpool were 3 points behind. ( finished 6 points behind )
Also QPR had a worse points tally, they were 4 points ahead, finished level.

Felt it necessary to correct the previously stated facts, some of the stats sites have errors based on match rounds. I believe the errors come from cancelled games like the Sheff utd match, original scheduled under Paul Wayne reign but was cancelled due the sad passing of the of the more significant reign of HM the queen.
The rearranged game was under mat Taylor but some stat to sites credit it to Paul warne time in error.

[Back of the net]

Facts are facts, whoever posts them
Taylor has been a disaster so far
When PW left, we had 18 points from 11 games, and a GD of +7
We finished the season with 32 points from the remaining 35 games and a GD of -18
The form over those games was so bad that if we'd performed like that over the entire season, we'd have been relegated (Wigan would have finished just below us ONLY because of the points deduction)
And now, the most expensive Rotherham team in history, has lost 4 and drawn 2 this season

That's why I'm negative about Taylor....
But if that's what you want from a manager, that's your choice.....

I agree facts or facts.
Paul Warne failed every time in the championship it’s a fact.
MT kept us up last season it’s a fact.
Let’s leave Warne in the past and judge MT on his achievements so far he’s succeeded.

Fact
😊😊

[Back of the net]

Very true.

MT would have relegated us last season if not for Warne.

Yet, people think he's better. Bonkers.

That’s an opinion not a fact.

[rolymiller]

Plus it is worth remembering warne teams tend to be knacked at end of season. Derby faded last season as well. Also warne not notoriously good in Jan transfer window. I doubt if he would have bettered MT.

Yes MT took a risk on Morrison, hall, blackett and peltier. To be fair they are on pay as you play but they are good defenders if fit. So far blackett is ok🤞and arguably most consistent defender so far.

Dexter, Jesus, Fred, green, cafu and I suspect nombe are all improvements on the players we had last season in the same positions.

We just need that win under our belt and I think, a bit of luck on injuries and crap refs and we will be cooking on gas.

[Heliosphan]

You've also got to remember that MT inherited a team that wasn't his. We lost Dan. We lost Wiles to injury. We lost Rathbone to injury. We suffered injuries at key points of the season. We signed Morrison and he got injured immediately, same as Bailey Wright. We had far from a settled side last season and I think MT deserves massive credit for keeping us up.

[Heliosphan]

And now, the most expensive Rotherham team in history, has lost 4 and drawn 2 this season

That's why I'm negative about Taylor....
But if that's what you want from a manager, that's your choice.....

And the most expensive Rotherham team in history is still miles behind the likes of Stoke, Blackburn, Sunderland and Leicester, but I know you know that.

[DerekMiller]

Well I'm looking forward to seeing the lad play. Welcome Sam.