Cardiff City Post Match Thoughts

[HensonsPRman]

Henson thanks for this re the squad thing I for one didn’t know anything about this rule Christ I knew we were facing a battle to stay up but this just about puts the tin lid on it didn’t realise the rest of the championship could have basically have limitless numbers in terms of the squad so if I understand it correctly we could have added Ayres Douglas Mckuckin Holvey Durose and others I’ve forgotten but our beloved leader MT has deemed them not enough his words not mine

We have added 5 players:

Ford, Durose, Douglas, Holvey and McGuckin.

The point is all the other teams have sides that play in the under 21 and Under 23 leagues, which is what reserve team football used to be. Some Division 1 sides have these teams as well, hence why the other clubs have big squads playing competitive football. Our lads are nowhere near this level and go on loan to the lower levels of non-league.

[Lolmorgan]

We have added 5 players:

Ford, Durose, Douglas, Holvey and McGuckin.

The point is all the other teams have sides that play in the under 21 and Under 23 leagues, which is what reserve team football used to be. Some Division 1 sides have these teams as well, hence why the other clubs have big squads playing competitive football. Our lads are nowhere near this level and go on loan to the lower levels of non-league.

Did we not bring Redfern in to build the Academy,I do believe he did a great job at Barnsley,I think T/S was asking too much of him to manage & build the Academy but I think T/S didn’t realise how much a good academy costs.

[millertop]

It was **** but let’s not panic

Maybe there’s some truth in the bigger pitches, we play down middle and bunched together generally

[HensonsPRman]

Did we not bring Redfern in to build the Academy,I do believe he did a great job at Barnsley,I think T/S was asking too much of him to manage & build the Academy but I think T/S didn’t realise how much a good academy costs.

If you look at the link I posted earlier and scroll down to Div 1 Barnsley have 18 U21 professionals Blackpool 22 and Bolton 21.
All the teams are listed have a look, it highlights the size of the task that Taylor has

[gru]

What's it matter about academy's to us 1st team squad what matters. If we had 20 fit players good enough we wouldn't be 2nd from bottom of championship how it stands.

[gru]

are you saying that trying to build a youth teamcapable of supporting the first team is pointless? If so why do so many of the other clubs do it (see other posts on this thread to support that)

Honest I think it's just a done thing clubs showing intent re. youth policy knowing in clubs of our size chances of anything coming from it are almost non-existent.

[millertop]

Poor MT has to sit above then gets punished more by having Paul Douglas with him

[Derbymiller]

I think this youth development and the under 21 team is a bigger issue than some think, great information from Henson on this, thank you makes for interesting reading and a wider discussion. Everything is about money and clearly TS has decided that the first team is it and therefore very short-sighted and a short-term thinker, makes you wonder why when it is clear what a detrimental impact it has on the first team and how a well run youth development system benefits the club financially in the longer term.

[Back of the net]

I think this youth development and the under 21 team is a bigger issue than some think, great information from Henson on this, thank you makes for interesting reading and a wider discussion. Everything is about money and clearly TS has decided that the first team is it and therefore very short-sighted and a short-term thinker, makes you wonder why when it is clear what a detrimental impact it has on the first team and how a well run youth development system benefits the club financially in the longer term.

Genuine question if TS come out and said forget paying out transfer fees he’s going to invest in academy how do you think that would be received?
You can call him short sighted but he clearly can’t do both.
He’s not wealthy enough.

[Derbymiller]

Genuine question if TS come out and said forget paying out transfer fees he’s going to invest in academy how do you think that would be received?
You can call him short sighted but he clearly can’t do both.
He’s not wealthy enough.

It is a good question, I don't think it is a black or white answer though. We are assuming that we can only pay transfer fees if we don't have a good youth system, that isn't the case we see clubs lower down the pyramid that do both, some are named on this thread, I am sure there are more. If PW was wanting one and Warnock also saw it as an issue, then it does look like a very limiting decision. Also remember that the youth system is a revenue earner over time