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[Trickytreesreds]

Clarkson Never a dull moment


Jeremy Clarkson tears into Labour and says he’d rather vote for his dog than Keir Starmer
The TV presenter turned farmer said the party wants "open borders, zero growth and everyone living in a bucket of shame".


Jeremy Clarkson has ripped into Keir Starmer and his party declaring he’d rather vote for his dog.

The typically to the point former Top Gear presenter turned farmer had a lot to say about the upcoming General Election in his latest column.

Clarkson, who stars in Clarkson’s Farm chronicling his life in Chipping Norton in West Oxfordshire, talked about how he could see some appeal in all the main parties - except Labour.

He said he was “struggling to work out” which way he should vote but gave a rundown of how he could understand why people would back the Lib Dems, Reform, Greens and - although disparaging about the party - The Conservatives.

However he then added he “cannot find a single redeeming feature” about the Labour Party saying that “not a single candidate has said one word” that he agrees with in his column for The Sun.


Clarkson slammed Labour for a range of issues - including tax
He wrote: “They want open borders, zero growth and everyone living in a bucket of shame because their great great grandad once bought a hairbrush that had possibly been made by slaves.

“Their manifesto contains just 87 words on farming. Which, when translated into English basically say: ‘We hate you, you meat-eating rural halfwits.’”

His main gripe is over the possibility that Labour will introduce inheritance tax on farm land which Clarkson argues means that in 20 years there’ll be no farm land left in the UK - and is furious that people face the possibility of having hard-earned savings given to those who “haven’t worked at all.”

He added that he’d “rather vote for my dog than Sir Starmer’s merry bunch of ideological nincompoops”.

[Geoff Parkstone]

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Schrodinger's Immigrant 😄

[Andy_Faber]

Again quite possible and it is fair to say that my experience is certainly ‘dated’…however it is something of a truism, imo, that the Independent/Private/‘Public’ school sector is primarily aimed at the well off. Beyond that we’ll have to agree to differ.

…but the tax change will only hurt those middle earners grafting to improve their kids’ chances, it’s an irrelevance to the swans milk-quaffing Quentins of this world. Still it will appeal to those who only think of the ‘headline - a ‘populist’ policy, who’d have thought it of Labour?

Criticisms aimed at the policy not you btw, and I think TTR’s missed the point that we are talking about education because that’s just the current subject matter

[Trickytreesreds]

…but the tax change will only hurt those middle earners grafting to improve their kids’ chances, it’s an irrelevance to the swans milk-quaffing Quentins of this world. Still it will appeal to those who only think of the ‘headline - a ‘populist’ policy, who’d have thought it of Labour?

Criticisms aimed at the policy not you btw, and I think TTR’s missed the point that we are talking about education because that’s just the current subject matter

I was actually taking the piss, lets not fall out the boat.

Talking of taking the piss, I do love the current Tory panic over reform. They even have Johnson at it, though he forgot to engage his brain before hurling the insult. Oh the irony at that attack.

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[Andy_Faber]

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Schrodinger's Immigrant 😄

Dear old Terry, never really recovered from the L7 incident

[swaledale]

…but the tax change will only hurt those middle earners grafting to improve their kids’ chances, it’s an irrelevance to the swans milk-quaffing Quentins of this world. Still it will appeal to those who only think of the ‘headline - a ‘populist’ policy, who’d have thought it of Labour?

Criticisms aimed at the policy not you btw, and I think TTR’s missed the point that we are talking about education because that’s just the current subject matter

Well done guys! I mean my point was really the irony of a bunch of privileged and rich tw@ts making out that they are on the side of the "ordinary person" and being believed by rather poorer tw@ts bless them!

I note a comment about what Clarkson thinks, mm now who does he hang around with? Oh yes that bunch of tw@ts in Oxfordshire including "Lord" Cameron the guy who started the whole ****ing decline in the UK, not that it affects him of course with his millions from dubious foreign sources. So if thick people think his judgement is sound, again, bless them!

But as you've raised the tax on private schools, not sure who these middle earners are who are grafting to improve their kids chances, but if someone can afford to pay £5K a term to send their little darling to private school, another £1k isn't going to be unaffordable, I mean sure they might have to not go skiing at Xmas, but hey sacrifices have to be made!

Also given these people in the higher income bracket, are going to be living in wealthier areas where the state education system is going to be better, I really don't see what the issue is. Its not as if they are trying to avoid sending little Jill or Jonnie to a school in a deprived area is it?

And its not a populist headline Policy, its a way of funding state education with a tax, which the vast majority of voters won't give a toss about! Judging by the squeals coming from the right wing media, they have got that about right.

I mean whoever gets in, tax has got to be raised unless the magic money tree or the stupid and illogical "fiscal rules" Labour have imposed on themselves are ignored.

[swaledale]

This a typical reform voter, interviewed the other night in Swindon -

"Why are you voting for Reform?"
"Because these immigrants come over here and take our jobs, I haven't been able to get a job for over 3 years"
"You haven't had a job for 3 years?"
"No, nobody will take me on. I do have a criminal record nobody will look at me"
"You have a criminal record?"
"Yes, for assault, I came out of prison 3 years ago!"

I mean I know Reform voters like to blame others for their **** lives, but....

[MadAmster]

It seems, whoever gets in, there will be no increase in Income Tax, NICs and VAT. Con/Lab/LibD have said roughly the same. What they haven't said, from what I've seen over here, is where the extra money is going to come from.

Apologies if I've got it wrong, but it looks to me like all 3 are going to plug some loopholes and hope, it's no more than hope, that they get a lot from things like scrapping non-Dom, closing tax loopholes, making tax evasion harder... I bet accountants up and down the country are rubbing their hands at all the extra they'll make from their clients dreaming up new ways to get round paying tax.

Labour have said they'll put VAT on private schools fees. That's about it, as far as I can see.

Why aren't Labour and LibDem going after dodgy Covid PPE billions? What aren't they chasing Baroness Mone and Hancock's favourite Pub Landlord among others for the profits they made on deals that have been labelled illegal in Court? Chase however many billions is unaccounted for?

A wing and a prayer doesn't seem to me to be the best way forward for UK PLC but, again please correct me if I'm wrong, that does seem to be what the parties are suggesting.

Windfall taxes are something I'd push for. If a company's profits rise immensely because of something innovative they've done then let them and their shareholders wallow in the financial glory. I have no problem with that. Conversely, it seems Tesco's profits have gone up by getting on £2Bn during a cost of living crisis. I'd say to anybody in Governement, let's have some of that. I'd also be in favour of giving Tesco, for instance, the opposite of a windfall tax, a sort of downpour rebate if they, through no fault of their own, had a less than successful year. Fairness for all.

Now, I'm now going to venture where no man should go, things I don't know about. I do know the various rates of Tax in NL, be that personal income tax, company profit, dividends... Is it the same in the UK that income derived through capital be that fron dividends, share dealings, income from rental portfolios and other income derived through capital is taxed at a lower rate than income through work. Personally, I find that abhorrent. A earns 30K monetary units a year working 9 to 5 in an office, sweeping the streets, nursing or whatever. He'll pay more tax on that income than B who makes 30K monetary units a year buying and sellin stocks and shares, "investing" in ******* or living off the proceeds of the shares he inherited from his parents. Your income is 30K, no matter how you got it, we should all pay the same tax on it. Here in NL, that's not the case, is it the same in the UK?

[Andy_Faber]

Well done guys! I mean my point was really the irony of a bunch of privileged and rich tw@ts making out that they are on the side of the "ordinary person" and being believed by rather poorer tw@ts bless them!

I note a comment about what Clarkson thinks, mm now who does he hang around with? Oh yes that bunch of tw@ts in Oxfordshire including "Lord" Cameron the guy who started the whole ****ing decline in the UK, not that it affects him of course with his millions from dubious foreign sources. So if thick people think his judgement is sound, again, bless them!

But as you've raised the tax on private schools, not sure who these middle earners are who are grafting to improve their kids chances, but if someone can afford to pay £5K a term to send their little darling to private school, another £1k isn't going to be unaffordable, I mean sure they might have to not go skiing at Xmas, but hey sacrifices have to be made!

Also given these people in the higher income bracket, are going to be living in wealthier areas where the state education system is going to be better, I really don't see what the issue is. Its not as if they are trying to avoid sending little Jill or Jonnie to a school in a deprived area is it?

And its not a populist headline Policy, its a way of funding state education with a tax, which the vast majority of voters won't give a toss about! Judging by the squeals coming from the right wing media, they have got that about right.

I mean whoever gets in, tax has got to be raised unless the magic money tree or the stupid and illogical "fiscal rules" Labour have imposed on themselves are ignored.

Reinforcing my point that the proposal is aimed at spiteful people. Swale, yet again you don’t have a clue

[Andy_Faber]

It seems, whoever gets in, there will be no increase in Income Tax, NICs and VAT. Con/Lab/LibD have said roughly the same. What they haven't said, from what I've seen over here, is where the extra money is going to come from.

Apologies if I've got it wrong, but it looks to me like all 3 are going to plug some loopholes and hope, it's no more than hope, that they get a lot from things like scrapping non-Dom, closing tax loopholes, making tax evasion harder... I bet accountants up and down the country are rubbing their hands at all the extra they'll make from their clients dreaming up new ways to get round paying tax.

Labour have said they'll put VAT on private schools fees. That's about it, as far as I can see.

Why aren't Labour and LibDem going after dodgy Covid PPE billions? What aren't they chasing Baroness Mone and Hancock's favourite Pub Landlord among others for the profits they made on deals that have been labelled illegal in Court? Chase however many billions is unaccounted for?

A wing and a prayer doesn't seem to me to be the best way forward for UK PLC but, again please correct me if I'm wrong, that does seem to be what the parties are suggesting.

Windfall taxes are something I'd push for. If a company's profits rise immensely because of something innovative they've done then let them and their shareholders wallow in the financial glory. I have no problem with that. Conversely, it seems Tesco's profits have gone up by getting on £2Bn during a cost of living crisis. I'd say to anybody in Governement, let's have some of that. I'd also be in favour of giving Tesco, for instance, the opposite of a windfall tax, a sort of downpour rebate if they, through no fault of their own, had a less than successful year. Fairness for all.

Now, I'm now going to venture where no man should go, things I don't know about. I do know the various rates of Tax in NL, be that personal income tax, company profit, dividends... Is it the same in the UK that income derived through capital be that fron dividends, share dealings, income from rental portfolios and other income derived through capital is taxed at a lower rate than income through work. Personally, I find that abhorrent. A earns 30K monetary units a year working 9 to 5 in an office, sweeping the streets, nursing or whatever. He'll pay more tax on that income than B who makes 30K monetary units a year buying and sellin stocks and shares, "investing" in ******* or living off the proceeds of the shares he inherited from his parents. Your income is 30K, no matter how you got it, we should all pay the same tax on it. Here in NL, that's not the case, is it the same in the UK?

Not like that in U.K. MA, all taxed at the marginal rate (if the income is in the hands of individuals)