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    Kerr - I cant find the original post to link.*

    Im not comparing to pre 80s. Thatcher policy made the 80s and 90s generation richer than previous. But hers was a one off sell off for votes. The impact is being seen with subsequent generations; they are significantly worse off than their parents or grandparents.

    The 2008 recession followed by 10 years of Tory austerity has made the situation signifantly worse.

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    What is the point of these TV debates on the election, when the audience is filled with remoaners.The ITV last night showed once again,they are just as bad as the others.No applause for leaver representatives but enthusiastic for remoaners.It really is pathetic that these people speak up for the Islington London bubble crowd and not the majority of the population.Before that we had the remainiac Marr constantly talking over the Prime Minister's answers and interupting all of the time.It was like Marr interview Marr.Yet there was very little interuption for remoaners answers, when they were questioned.So biased it's unbelievable and the voters are getting wise to this fake broadcating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    What is the point of these TV debates on the election, when the audience is filled with remoaners.The ITV last night showed once again,they are just as bad as the others.No applause for leaver representatives but enthusiastic for remoaners.It really is pathetic that these people speak up for the Islington London bubble crowd and not the majority of the population.Before that we had the remainiac Marr constantly talking over the Prime Minister's answers and interupting all of the time.It was like Marr interview Marr.Yet there was very little interuption for remoaners answers, when they were questioned.So biased it's unbelievable and the voters are getting wise to this fake broadcating.
    For me, it just seemed that the Remain based parties made the better arguments more forcefully. Farage very poor, normally better than this but obviously he has his Conservative deal to protect

    As for Marr, I think that he was simply responding to the fact that Johnson wasn't actually answering the questions, but spinning his own interpretation of the questions so that he could get his sound bites in. A more forceful interviewer wouldn't let him get away with it. Marr realised he was only getting spin so wanted to move on in the little time he had. The problem for non Tories is that such an approach to interviewers (ignoring questions and simply saying what you want to say) can sound ok if you say it forcefully enough and the interviewer isn't strong enough to pin you down and embarrass you with the tactic. Hence, we won't go on Andrew Neill

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    For me, it just seemed that the Remain based parties made the better arguments more forcefully. Farage very poor, normally better than this but obviously he has his Conservative deal to protect

    As for Marr, I think that he was simply responding to the fact that Johnson wasn't actually answering the questions, but spinning his own interpretation of the questions so that he could get his sound bites in. A more forceful interviewer wouldn't let him get away with it. Marr realised he was only getting spin so wanted to move on in the little time he had. The problem for non Tories is that such an approach to interviewers (ignoring questions and simply saying what you want to say) can sound ok if you say it forcefully enough and the interviewer isn't strong enough to pin you down and embarrass you with the tactic. Hence, we won't go on Andrew Neill
    I think you have got the Marr interview spot on rp
    Lost count of the number of times Johnson mentioned how much the current state of affairs is all Labours fault & couldn't wait to use get Brexit Done mantra as did Nicky Morgan as did the pathetic Matt Hancock both on Good Morning Britain
    They are obviously speaking from a rehearsed script & that script was what Marr was battling against

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiletyke View Post
    I think you have got the Marr interview spot on rp
    Lost count of the number of times Johnson mentioned how much the current state of affairs is all Labours fault & couldn't wait to use get Brexit Done mantra as did Nicky Morgan as did the pathetic Matt Hancock both on Good Morning Britain
    They are obviously speaking from a rehearsed script & that script was what Marr was battling against
    Raab same mantra on Good Morning Britain this morning ........blame Labour
    Get Brexit Done they're like trained parrots so obviously rehearsed
    Last edited by Exiletyke; 03-12-2019 at 08:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiletyke View Post
    Raab same mantra on Good Morning Britain this morning ........blame Labour
    Get Brexit Done they're like trained parrots so obviously rehearsed
    Aren’t they all the same labour blaming torys, torys blaming labour It’s a bit like school kids on playground slapping each other “miss Jeremy started it” “no miss Boris started it he slapped me first”

    I wonder if we will ever get a leader saying yeah we cocked up but don’t worry I know how to fix it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    Labour councils in Rotherham (sometimes also when there’s been a Labour government) have had decades to improve the place.

    It might show the odd statistical blip that looks good in reports but we all know it’s a run down depressing place.

    Save the arguments, just go down to the town centre and marvel at its magnificence.

    A new Labour government will make it worse as the country will be saddled with extra debt.
    Thing is if or when Tory’s get in again labour council in Rotherham will take it as a 5 year vacation and use the fact that Tory’s are in power to hide the fact that they did nothing themselves. Roly puppy animal you know I’m right since you use the same lines labour come out with.

    All it ever is with labour and Tory’s is excuses excuses excuses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly-miller View Post
    Thing is if or when Tory’s get in again labour council in Rotherham will take it as a 5 year vacation and use the fact that Tory’s are in power to hide the fact that they did nothing themselves. Roly puppy animal you know I’m right since you use the same lines labour come out with.

    All it ever is with labour and Tory’s is excuses excuses excuses
    Youre not right though are you. You just totally ignore redevelopment over the last 20 odd years of schools, town centre and industrial parks. Doesnt make us the most attractive town in Yorks but it is the fastest growing.

    We were ahead in recognising town centres of non tourist towns are dying and started our redevelooment before most others (the planning started mid 90s after it was hit with a double whammy of Meadowhall and a retail recession). Lets wait until the town centre is complete before complaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller View Post
    Youre not right though are you. You just totally ignore redevelopment over the last 20 odd years of schools, town centre and industrial parks. Doesnt make us the most attractive town in Yorks but it is the fastest growing.

    We were ahead in recognising town centres of non tourist towns are dying and started our redevelooment before most others (the planning started mid 90s after it was hit with a double whammy of Meadowhall and a retail recession). Lets wait until the town centre is complete before complaining.
    How did the Millers go on Wanchai,drop the Millers off your username mate thas never been a Miller.How about WanchaiO/T that's more fitting.
    Last edited by Lolmorgan; 03-12-2019 at 08:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller View Post
    Youre not right though are you. You just totally ignore redevelopment over the last 20 odd years of schools, town centre and industrial parks. Doesnt make us the most attractive town in Yorks but it is the fastest growing.

    We were ahead in recognising town centres of non tourist towns are dying and started our redevelooment before most others (the planning started mid 90s after it was hit with a double whammy of Meadowhall and a retail recession). Lets wait until the town centre is complete before complaining.
    That's a long planning process for our town centre Wanchai. I wonder if it was nesting pigeons that held it up? I suppose it hasn't bothered you out there in Hong Kong. Then again, you'll be ready for moving back to Rotherham with all the rioting that's going off? Or would you rather risk it?

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