Change in disciplinary punishments

[mistaram]

ramAnag. Your right dreadful tackle funny Cardiff never challenged it There are fouls and there calculating dangerous career threatening ones Yes I'm same as you I really do admire Warnock but he never came out and condemned that tackle But he is a very good manager Don't like saying it but I think they will finish above us he's got a great squad theve spent a lot of money He likes a certain type of character playing for him and he is very good at getting them to do what he wants I think they could finish runner ups I would rather play against Villa than Cardiff anyday

[Romanis]

Actually I got the answer to my question, many posts ago. I think it was RA.
Goalkeeper won't be sent off if he made an attempt for the ball despite preventing the goalscoring opportunity.
Only a penalty and yellow.
But then as RA alluded, how does one interpret that on a consistent basis? Each referee has a different tolerance level.

[mistaram]

Rob Yes I've read it again please accept my apologies

[mistaram]

Some blame should also be put at the refs door because I watch loads of football and I've never seen a ref give a player a pen for staying on his feet

[Romanis]

Some blame should also be put at the refs door because I watch loads of football and I've never seen a ref give a player a pen for staying on his feet

Yes except a clear shirt tug

[Manofpride]

Slightly off topic but what bugs me is when a goalkeeper has the ball in his hands runs to the edge of the box to kick the ball into play. I reckon at least 50% of the time the ball is still in his hands outside the box when he kicks it. All Refs and linesmen seem to turn a blind eye to this. I can't understand why the keeper holding the ball outside the box is never spotted with ball in hand/hands on the field of play! I've noticed it for years!

[MadAmster]

Slightly off topic but what bugs me is when a goalkeeper has the ball in his hands runs to the edge of the box to kick the ball into play. I reckon at least 50% of the time the ball is still in his hands outside the box when he kicks it. All Refs and linesmen seem to turn a blind eye to this. I can't understand why the keeper holding the ball outside the box is never spotted with ball in hand/hands on the field of play! I've noticed it for years!

That is a bugbear of mine too and not the only one when it comes to keepers.

1. When the keeper bounces the ball or throws it up so he can kick it away, he is deemed to still be in physical possession of the ball (in his hands) and opposition players may not attempt to play the ball nor may they attempt to prevent the keeper kicking the ball. Every time a keeper throws the ball up inside his area and then follows it out of the area to volley it forward, if the ball is a fraction of a cm outside his box when he volleys it, he has committed handball. Direct free kick and, if you are dumb and follow the letter of the La, he should also get red for deliberate handball outside the box. Personally I warn them 1st time, yellow for a 2nd offence and red for a third. The level I ref at these days, yellow brings an automatic 10 minute sin bin.

2. The 6 second Law. It is still there. Most refs don't apply it. I do. Again, I don't go directly into giiving a foul mode. I warn the keeper first time and make crystal clear that I will give the free kick if he does it again.

[ramAnag]

That is a bugbear of mine too and not the only one when it comes to keepers.

1. When the keeper bounces the ball or throws it up so he can kick it away, he is deemed to still be in physical possession of the ball (in his hands) and opposition players may not attempt to play the ball nor may they attempt to prevent the keeper kicking the ball. Every time a keeper throws the ball up inside his area and then follows it out of the area to volley it forward, if the ball is a fraction of a cm outside his box when he volleys it, he has committed handball. Direct free kick and, if you are dumb and follow the letter of the La, he should also get red for deliberate handball outside the box. Personally I warn them 1st time, yellow for a 2nd offence and red for a third. The level I ref at these days, yellow brings an automatic 10 minute sin bin.

2. The 6 second Law. It is still there. Most refs don't apply it. I do. Again, I don't go directly into giiving a foul mode. I warn the keeper first time and make crystal clear that I will give the free kick if he does it again.

All sounds far too sensible and in touch for today’s law makers.

[Romanis]

All sounds far too sensible and in touch for today’s law makers.

The issue in not enforcing this rule, is more to do with game management. Referees are urged to exercise discretion and not be too petty, if the action taken will interrupt the flow of the game.
Of course your rebuttal would be, 'why have the rule in the first place?'

That I can't answer, probably the explanation would be it should be used only for 'drastic cases.'

[MadAmster]

The issue in not enforcing this rule, is more to do with game management. Referees are urged to exercise discretion and not be too petty, if the action taken will interrupt the flow of the game.
Of course your rebuttal would be, 'why have the rule in the first place?'

That I can't answer, probably the explanation would be it should be used only for 'drastic cases.'

A keeper consistently taking 12 to 15 seconds to release the ball from hand is IMO interrupting the flow of the game. If he is being harried by an opposition player preventing him from wellying the ball downfield I would not penalise the keeper as the player would be preventing him from a safe release, indirect free kick to the keeper.