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    Some of the criticisms on here of PW are as best unhelpful, at worst disrespectful and certainly unwarranted.
    He's had so many issues go against him this season and he's been swimming against the tide for a long time now.

    A lengthy injury list and never being able to put out a settled squad
    Players clearly still affected with personal issues
    LTI,s involving two of our most influential players this season in SMac and Oggy
    He's had to self isolate and miss games and training sessions
    Covid within his own family
    His marquee signing in Hirst has turned out to be ineffective and remember that most of us endorsed this signing
    This covid outbreak
    EFL allowing points to be gifted back to a relegation rival
    EFL singling us out with our own special playing circumstances
    Lapses in concentration and bad luck in overtime with us shipping hard earned points
    Questionable refereeing decisions and assessments of reasonable time to add on at the end of a game
    There's probably more

    There's a transfer window about to open, players are starting to come back from injury and we,ve played than less than half of our games.
    The least we can do is Give the lad a chance to turn it around. No point with the sustained criticism, it won't help us accumulate some points and will erode confidence at the club. The criticism from a month or so ago seeped its way to the players and management team and clearly affected Warney

    There was an article in the Yorkshire Post recently, or it may have been the Star, where Neil Warnock says he fully endorses PW as our long term solution. He even went as far as advising Tony on the golf course not to do anything rash. So for the master tacticians on here there is an endorsement from one of the greatest Managers and tacticians we have witnessed in that PW is the right man for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourbasher View Post
    Some of the criticisms on here of PW are as best unhelpful, at worst disrespectful and certainly unwarranted.
    He's had so many issues go against him this season and he's been swimming against the tide for a long time now.

    A lengthy injury list and never being able to put out a settled squad
    Players clearly still affected with personal issues
    LTI,s involving two of our most influential players this season in SMac and Oggy
    He's had to self isolate and miss games and training sessions
    Covid within his own family
    His marquee signing in Hirst has turned out to be ineffective and remember that most of us endorsed this signing
    This covid outbreak
    EFL allowing points to be gifted back to a relegation rival
    EFL singling us out with our own special playing circumstances
    Lapses in concentration and bad luck in overtime with us shipping hard earned points
    Questionable refereeing decisions and assessments of reasonable time to add on at the end of a game
    There's probably more

    There's a transfer window about to open, players are starting to come back from injury and we,ve played than less than half of our games.
    The least we can do is Give the lad a chance to turn it around. No point with the sustained criticism, it won't help us accumulate some points and will erode confidence at the club. The criticism from a month or so ago seeped its way to the players and management team and clearly affected Warney

    There was an article in the Yorkshire Post recently, or it may have been the Star, where Neil Warnock says he fully endorses PW as our long term solution. He even went as far as advising Tony on the golf course not to do anything rash. So for the master tacticians on here there is an endorsement from one of the greatest Managers and tacticians we have witnessed in that PW is the right man for us.
    Great post. Well said!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourbasher View Post
    Some of the criticisms on here of PW are as best unhelpful, at worst disrespectful and certainly unwarranted.
    He's had so many issues go against him this season and he's been swimming against the tide for a long time now.

    A lengthy injury list and never being able to put out a settled squad
    Players clearly still affected with personal issues
    LTI,s involving two of our most influential players this season in SMac and Oggy
    He's had to self isolate and miss games and training sessions
    Covid within his own family
    His marquee signing in Hirst has turned out to be ineffective and remember that most of us endorsed this signing
    This covid outbreak
    EFL allowing points to be gifted back to a relegation rival
    EFL singling us out with our own special playing circumstances
    Lapses in concentration and bad luck in overtime with us shipping hard earned points
    Questionable refereeing decisions and assessments of reasonable time to add on at the end of a game
    There's probably more

    There's a transfer window about to open, players are starting to come back from injury and we,ve played than less than half of our games.
    The least we can do is Give the lad a chance to turn it around. No point with the sustained criticism, it won't help us accumulate some points and will erode confidence at the club. The criticism from a month or so ago seeped its way to the players and management team and clearly affected Warney

    There was an article in the Yorkshire Post recently, or it may have been the Star, where Neil Warnock says he fully endorses PW as our long term solution. He even went as far as advising Tony on the golf course not to do anything rash. So for the master tacticians on here there is an endorsement from one of the greatest Managers and tacticians we have witnessed in that PW is the right man for us.
    Well said flour

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourbasher View Post
    Some of the criticisms on here of PW are as best unhelpful, at worst disrespectful and certainly unwarranted.
    He's had so many issues go against him this season and he's been swimming against the tide for a long time now.

    A lengthy injury list and never being able to put out a settled squad
    Players clearly still affected with personal issues
    LTI,s involving two of our most influential players this season in SMac and Oggy
    He's had to self isolate and miss games and training sessions
    Covid within his own family
    His marquee signing in Hirst has turned out to be ineffective and remember that most of us endorsed this signing
    This covid outbreak
    EFL allowing points to be gifted back to a relegation rival
    EFL singling us out with our own special playing circumstances
    Lapses in concentration and bad luck in overtime with us shipping hard earned points
    Questionable refereeing decisions and assessments of reasonable time to add on at the end of a game
    There's probably more

    There's a transfer window about to open, players are starting to come back from injury and we,ve played than less than half of our games.
    The least we can do is Give the lad a chance to turn it around. No point with the sustained criticism, it won't help us accumulate some points and will erode confidence at the club. The criticism from a month or so ago seeped its way to the players and management team and clearly affected Warney

    There was an article in the Yorkshire Post recently, or it may have been the Star, where Neil Warnock says he fully endorses PW as our long term solution. He even went as far as advising Tony on the golf course not to do anything rash. So for the master tacticians on here there is an endorsement from one of the greatest Managers and tacticians we have witnessed in that PW is the right man for us.
    So with all the problems you state above you think it is a good idea for the manager to then go out and tell everyone how good the other team we are about to play is? I guess you think thats a good way of building your players up then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLadonOS View Post
    So with all the problems you state above you think it is a good idea for the manager to then go out and tell everyone how good the other team we are about to play is? I guess you think thats a good way of building your players up then?
    I think you and a few others read far too much into this. It’s turned into a mantra. But of course, if he just says the opposition are **** we will win 6-0 LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLadonOS View Post
    So with all the problems you state above you think it is a good idea for the manager to then go out and tell everyone how good the other team we are about to play is? I guess you think thats a good way of building your players up then?
    I have every confidence that What PW says in the press and then what he says to the players on the training ground and in the pre match pep talk will be vastly different. It's subtle mind games probably from all those NFL biographies he's read

    Come on BL give the guy some slack as this isn't helping. PW was clearly affected by the criticism a few weeks ago and is clearly upset by the EFL attitude towards him over this covid issue.

    In the words of our Chairman he needs help not further burdens

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourbasher View Post
    Some of the criticisms on here of PW are as best unhelpful, at worst disrespectful and certainly unwarranted.
    He's had so many issues go against him this season and he's been swimming against the tide for a long time now.

    A lengthy injury list and never being able to put out a settled squad
    Players clearly still affected with personal issues
    LTI,s involving two of our most influential players this season in SMac and Oggy
    He's had to self isolate and miss games and training sessions
    Covid within his own family
    His marquee signing in Hirst has turned out to be ineffective and remember that most of us endorsed this signing
    This covid outbreak
    EFL allowing points to be gifted back to a relegation rival
    EFL singling us out with our own special playing circumstances
    Lapses in concentration and bad luck in overtime with us shipping hard earned points
    Questionable refereeing decisions and assessments of reasonable time to add on at the end of a game
    There's probably more

    There's a transfer window about to open, players are starting to come back from injury and we,ve played than less than half of our games.
    The least we can do is Give the lad a chance to turn it around. No point with the sustained criticism, it won't help us accumulate some points and will erode confidence at the club. The criticism from a month or so ago seeped its way to the players and management team and clearly affected Warney

    There was an article in the Yorkshire Post recently, or it may have been the Star, where Neil Warnock says he fully endorses PW as our long term solution. He even went as far as advising Tony on the golf course not to do anything rash. So for the master tacticians on here there is an endorsement from one of the greatest Managers and tacticians we have witnessed in that PW is the right man for us.
    I agree with all that flour,there are a few on here who are not Roth fans trying to troublemake.The EFL come out of this with no credibility whatsoever.When asked for guidance, on this problem instead of support, Warney was threatened with "potential" huge penalties that the club may be dealt with.Scaremongering at its worst.This is a faceless, useless,unaccountable organisation, who are not fit for purpose.Well done lads and lets get the next match won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourbasher View Post
    Some of the criticisms on here of PW are as best unhelpful, at worst disrespectful and certainly unwarranted.
    He's had so many issues go against him this season and he's been swimming against the tide for a long time now.

    A lengthy injury list and never being able to put out a settled squad
    Players clearly still affected with personal issues
    LTI,s involving two of our most influential players this season in SMac and Oggy
    He's had to self isolate and miss games and training sessions
    Covid within his own family
    His marquee signing in Hirst has turned out to be ineffective and remember that most of us endorsed this signing
    This covid outbreak
    EFL allowing points to be gifted back to a relegation rival
    EFL singling us out with our own special playing circumstances
    Lapses in concentration and bad luck in overtime with us shipping hard earned points
    Questionable refereeing decisions and assessments of reasonable time to add on at the end of a game
    There's probably more

    There's a transfer window about to open, players are starting to come back from injury and we,ve played than less than half of our games.
    The least we can do is Give the lad a chance to turn it around. No point with the sustained criticism, it won't help us accumulate some points and will erode confidence at the club. The criticism from a month or so ago seeped its way to the players and management team and clearly affected Warney

    There was an article in the Yorkshire Post recently, or it may have been the Star, where Neil Warnock says he fully endorses PW as our long term solution. He even went as far as advising Tony on the golf course not to do anything rash. So for the master tacticians on here there is an endorsement from one of the greatest Managers and tacticians we have witnessed in that PW is the right man for us.
    Well said flour although there'll be a few on here who still think they know better than the manager, that just seems to be part of their character.
    Cardiff up next so let's hope for an improvement in fortunes in that game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowmiller View Post
    Well said flour although there'll be a few on here who still think they know better than the manager, that just seems to be part of their character.
    Cardiff up next so let's hope for an improvement in fortunes in that game.

    Yes, he's perfect in every way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    Yes, he's perfect in every way
    No, but better than you and BigLad and all the other 'geniuses' combined.

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