Nicoliar calls

[Taintedice]

We haven't.

Scotland is empty and still we have the highest cases, still we have the least vaccinated, still we have the most restrictions.

all lies, why?

[Taintedice]

So the NHS doctors and nurses who treated him are involved in a conspiratorial cover up?

Have they done that for anyone else or just him?

Johnson was in hospital for alcohol and drug issue. He never had covid.

[Taintedice]

Scotland has one of the highest death rates in Europe, you can’t look any further than Boris, he told Nippy to send the ill OAP’s back to the nursing homes to spread COVID and die, eh right, blood is on Nippys hands and she knows it

Scotland did very poorly as part of the UK, correct. Undoubtedly people in Scotland refused to accept covid was a serious threat and continued as normal. Do you know anyone like that? The Scottish govt had no chance of keeping a lid on things when tories chased herd immunity.

[Deeranged]

So the question is

Why was the PM admitted to an NHS run ICU, which was seemingly 'overrun', at the time when his treatment could have been administered in a regular ward or possibly even at home?

I think the answer is propaganda -

'how do you get get an incompetent PM to u-turn on some of his blurted out and ill conceived comments and at the same time time scare the gullible into thinking this pandemic is a bigger issue than it really is Matt'?

'I know Dom, let's pretend Boris has Covid so bad that he needs admitted to ICU. The mugs will have visions of him in an induced coma and on a ventilator like the genuine patients so will take pity on him when in reality he'll be sitting in that bed reading whilst others die around him. We can then paint him as a stoic advocate of all the restrictions we want to impose on people and can claim he knows how bad it can be because he's been there'.

'Brilliant Matt, and down the line when asked about it we'll just lie because at least that's something we can do well'.

'Excellent Dom, just you go and self isolate up in Durham for now, I'll take care of it'.

'Great idea Matt, I have a castle on my to visit list, I'll get a trip there while I'm away'.

[jdfc]

Below from The Guardian published 17th April 2020 - seems pretty damning. As I read it yes he had Covid, but he didn't have bad enough symptoms to warrant admission to ICU. It also looks like the sleazy Tory scumbags conspired to lie to the press and of course the public. Still, I suppose we've come to expect that from them so no shocker there.


''One source inside the hospital said Johnson was “very sick” when taken into ICU. “It was touch and go whether he would be put on a ventilator,” the source said.

The same source, however, wonders whether the prime minister really should have been in intensive care.

About 130 other patients were in critical care at the time, the vast majority hooked up to ventilators. At no point was Johnson on a ventilator. Nor did he receive Cpap, a less invasive form of treatment.

The source said: “Before the coronavirus crisis you could be in ICU without being on a ventilator but pretty much every bed is now taken by a coronavirus patient with a ventilator. I know people who work in ICU and I know the technicians who prepare all the equipment and they all say he was not put on a ventilator. He was taking up an ICU bed when he didn’t need it. The idea that you would put a patient who didn’t need a ventilator on an ICU bed is nonsense.”

The clue is at the start, “The Gaurdian”

[jdfc]

So the question is

Why was the PM admitted to an NHS run ICU, which was seemingly 'overrun', at the time when his treatment could have been administered in a regular ward or possibly even at home?

I think the answer is propaganda -

'how do you get get an incompetent PM to u-turn on some of his blurted out and ill conceived comments and at the same time time scare the gullible into thinking this pandemic is a bigger issue than it really is Matt'?

'I know Dom, let's pretend Boris has Covid so bad that he needs admitted to ICU. The mugs will have visions of him in an induced coma and on a ventilator like the genuine patients so will take pity on him when in reality he'll be sitting in that bed reading whilst others die around him. We can then paint him as a stoic advocate of all the restrictions we want to impose on people and can claim he knows how bad it can be because he's been there'.

'Brilliant Matt, and down the line when asked about it we'll just lie because at least that's something we can do well'.

'Excellent Dom, just you go and self isolate up in Durham for now, I'll take care of it'.

'Great idea Matt, I have a castle on my to visit list, I'll get a trip there while I'm away'.

Put him in a normal ward ? and help spread it, good thinking

When he was admitted it was a time when we didn’t know where this was going, we were watching horror stories from Italy, they obviously took precautions, but for people to claim he wasn’t ill, they’ll be claiming mans never been to the moon next

[eric_sinclair]

Put him in a normal ward ? and help spread it, good thinking

When he was admitted it was a time when we didn’t know where this was going, we were watching horror stories from Italy, they obviously took precautions, but for people to claim he wasn’t ill, they’ll be claiming mans never been to the moon next

He was admitted start of April if my memory is tight, we were already in lockdown It wasn't really my issue on his illness, I just found it hard to believe that altho Dominic raab was deputising Boris was still calling the shots.As tories go, I actually prefer Boris to Cameron and may, cud never vote for them tho. 😉

[noahrab]

As tories go, I actually prefer Boris to Cameron and may, cud never vote for them tho. 

Why?

[eric_sinclair]

Why?

Cameron took off when brexit vote went pear shaped and I think may was indesisive. Boris at least has a bit about him.
As for the tory party, I've always saw them as a party more interested in Middle class England and didna relate to me as a working class scout. Think they are more for the elite,stopped my support we Labour due to John smiths death and Blair taking over. Ended up voting snp due to the candidate, hopefully sarwar gets Labour back in the game but long road ahead.

[noahrab]

Cameron took off when brexit vote went pear shaped and I think may was indesisive. Boris at least has a bit about him.
As for the tory party, I've always saw them as a party more interested in Middle class England and didna relate to me as a working class scout. Think they are more for the elite,stopped my support we Labour due to John smiths death and Blair taking over. Ended up voting snp due to the candidate, hopefully sarwar gets Labour back in the game but long road ahead.

Cameron did what any decent leader does when it went against them, resign. Salmond did the same. Compare and contrast when Sturgeon lost 21 MP’s at a GE.

Like them or not, they didn’t desert the people of the country over the last year, hardly elitist.

Voting SNP, or any political party but particularly the SNP, because of the candidate is a cop out.

The SNP aren’t allowed to have a different opinion from the party line.

It used to be said that Labour could put a monkey up for election in some constituencies and it would get elected.

We have that with the SNP, without exception.