Is recruitment likely to drive ground improvement

[SBRed48]

“However I think it's fair to say the consortium are looking to leave because I've never known ESR not be right when he's revealed things on the forum .“

read ESR post and turned to Mrs Jules and said the EXACT same words

I will sleep well tonight dreaming of seeing Conway leaving Oakwell carrying a cardboard box similar to Cummings leaving Downing Street.

[animallittle3]

Unfortunately the money men now have full and total control of the " People's Game " and they are extremely unlikely to relinquish it anytime soon .

I say unfortunately but there are a number of good extremely wealthy owners who have transformed the clubs they own successfully .

Kingpower at Leicester City are probably the pick and they have invested in the city as well as the club .

Until these people come through the door you don't know for sure what you are getting .

As fans we are powerless if things turn ugly and I feel that's probably what fuels fans frustrations .

Back in the day the chairman and directors were accountable to the shareholders and could be removed at election time .

No such luck today I'm afraid and those old models of ownership are rare today especially in the top two divisions .

The reason we have the models we do today with often ownership from overseas is simply down to the money that's come in to the game since the formation of the PL with the opportunity for publicity and glamour too I might add .

There's definitely a case to be made for a regulatory body in football today and not just for the fans concerns some of these owners need saving from themselves including that idiot down the road at S6 .

[Young_Nudger]

The cynic inside me fears that although some may rejoice in the departure of Conway, it doesn't necessarily mean summat better is around the corner.

I don’t think what you are saying is being cynical - it’s more like you are being a realist.

I’m honestly flabbergasted at what our supporters want.
Because on the face of it they want someone from Barnsley that’s similar to Patrick, a supporter who is willing to invest - but that person has to be worth £££Billions.
It ain’t gunna happen.

As far as I’m concerned I’m not bothered one bit that these owners are not Barnsley fans.
Which owners of clubs in the Championship are fans of the club they own?
All I’m bothered about is that we have owners that take the club forward.
And they are doing that brilliantly.
As a good example of this - they haven’t sold players - and during this transfer window they are only one of a handful of Championship clubs that’s actually spent money bringing players in.
What more can we ask for !?!?!

[animallittle3]

I’m honestly flabbergasted at what our supporters want.
Because on the face of it they want someone from Barnsley that’s similar to Patrick, a supporter who is willing to invest - but that person has to be worth £££Billions.
It ain’t gunna happen.

Not sure I've read anybody suggesting that Nudge .


Well let's drill down in to impact the ownership have had on the club .

1 , No significant rise in income streams , the club still shops in the bargain bucket market .

2 , No breaking of the clubs record transfer either bought or sold .

3 , No improvements made to the stadium .

4 , No improvements in the match day experience .

5 , The last two HC's had a successful stint and both did one to the first job they were offered , nothing here that convinced them bigger things were on the horizon .

6 , The value of the club is unlikely to have risen under the consortium .

If it wasn't for Covid the club would have in all reality have been relegated from the championship in 2020 .

It's unlikely too that a fifth place finish would have been achieved in any other season than the last one .

[SBRed48]

Who has said the next owner must be a person from Barnsley or a Barnsley fan Nudge ?

It's a line often used by Conway lovers

As far as I have read we have got a free transfer from Motherwell, a youngster loan from the City Group, a youngster loan from Bayern,.two undisclosed fee signings from Standard Liege and Toulouse and an undisclosed fee signing from Burnley. The cost of these will be covered by compo for Ismael and Murray as well as not paying wages for Mowatt, Dike, Thomas,Aitchinson,Kane, Moon, Miller,Ritzmaier, Christie Davies, Schmidt, McGeehan, Simoes, Green, Addai with money to spare. Conway is pillocking you that we have spent money, in fact we are in surplus on player movements

[Young_Nudger]

It’s not difficult to understand why they bought the club.
A Championship club with no debt and sold for relatively peanuts.
With a prize of £100 million if they can get into the league above.

All they needed to do was introduce a business plan.
It’s a simple plan that takes the club away from hiring loan players and paying out £££millions on journey men.
That strategy has been tried for decades and it causes more clubs to fail than to succeed - see S6.

Our strategy is different - and it’s taking football supporters and pundits time to try and work it out.
Its all based on identifying young talent and then developing them.
As the players are developing - the team is getting stronger.
As the team gets stronger some of those improving young players will be sold and others brought in - but the momentum is still rolling forward.
That momentum will eventually get us to striking distance of the Premier.

There’s genius at work at Barnsley.
I hope it works out for these owners.
It doesn’t matter to me if the owners eventually sell the club and make millions from the sale - because if they do sell the club - then that means of course that someone believes it’s worth buying and investing in.
In other words the club is a business that has players and (hopefully) the ground that are valuable assets.

[Arblasterfromthepast]

It’s not difficult to understand why they bought the club.
A Championship club with no debt and sold for relatively peanuts.
With a prize of £100 million if they can get into the league above.

All they needed to do was introduce a business plan.
It’s a simple plan that takes the club away from hiring loan players and paying out £££millions on journey men.
That strategy has been tried for decades and it causes more clubs to fail than to succeed - see S6.

Our strategy is different - and it’s taking football supporters and pundits time to try and work it out.
Its all based on identifying young talent and then developing them.
As the players are developing - the team is getting stronger.
As the team gets stronger some of those improving young players will be sold and others brought in - but the momentum is still rolling forward.
That momentum will eventually get us to striking distance of the Premier.

There’s genius at work at Barnsley.
I hope it works out for these owners.
It doesn’t matter to me if the owners eventually sell the club and make millions from the sale - because if they do sell the club - then that means of course that someone believes it’s worth buying and investing in.
In other words the club is a business that has players and (hopefully) the ground that are valuable assets.

They could have cleared the decks and done that at any club Nudge. So why Barnsley? I understand the model very well in can assure you.

[Arblasterfromthepast]

These charlatans are not a sports group Arbs. They are a Consortium of varied business interests-

Chien Lee-owner of New City Capital--Venture Capital, Hospitality (mainly hotel chains)
Paul "Arseoyle" Conway--co owner of Pacific Media Group based in Hong Kong--distribution of a variety of media globally
Grace Hung--co owner and President of PMG
Neerav Parekh--Mumbai based data company called v Phrase

Thanks for that SB, didn't know they had other interests. However, I still don't see that much value in developing the land around Oakwell. We're not talking french Riviera or tourism capital of the UK. And that's not knocking Barnsley in any way because I was born there and love it even though I no longer live there.

[SBRed48]

They are business people here to make money Arbs. They have no emotional attachment to Barnsley FC-

buy the club cheap, invest none of their own money, sell at a higher price

acquire the clubs assets with a "clear title" on the deeds-develop area for profit, mainly residential development

build low cost stadium using loan paid for by club using transfer surpluses or ground share with another club

Ask the OGC Nice fans who demonstrated to get Conway out after he bled the club dry

[pass_and_move]

They are business people here to make money Arbs. They have no emotional attachment to Barnsley FC-

buy the club cheap, invest none of their own money, sell at a higher price

acquire the clubs assets with a "clear title" on the deeds-develop area for profit, mainly residential development

build low cost stadium using loan paid for by club using transfer surpluses or ground share with another club

Ask the OGC Nice fans who demonstrated to get Conway out after he bled the club dry

Just out of interest I looked up the cost of building a new stadium.

Rotherham's 12000 capacity New York stadium cost 20m to build in 2011

Wimbledon's new Plough Lane 9000 capacity cost 30m in 2017

Brentfords new 17000 stadium cost 70m in 2020

Shrewsbury's 10000 New Meadow cost 11m in 2006

Colchester's 10000 cost 15m in 2008

York City paid 40m for their new 8000 capacity stadium in 2021

Donnys 15000 capacity Keepmoat stadium cost 20m to build in 2006

A conservative estimate to relocate BFC to a 15000 capacity new stadium would be around 30 million judging by the cost of those modest stadiums I mentioned. I reckon that'd be going rock bottom cheap too. I wonder how much the land around oakwell is worth?