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    Quote Originally Posted by Godsend.F.C. View Post
    Also Bob on.
    He's a successful businesman and eventually will want a return. RUFC is part of his empire and yes he was approached, more than once to take the club on. Maybe, just maybe he could see long term investment with a profit.
    Easiest way to empty your pockets - buy a football club. (a small northern town one with a small fan base.
    Some people should actually realise what it costs to operate a football club and the liabilities it has, not everything is 'black and white'.
    You say small fan base but compared to Blackpool,Blackburn ,Preston .Wigan and Luton they aren't a great deal different in numbers to us.Apart from Luton, they can all accomodate far bigger away fans than us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    You say small fan base but compared to Blackpool,Blackburn ,Preston .Wigan and Luton they aren't a great deal different in numbers to us.Apart from Luton, they can all accomodate far bigger away fans than us.
    Apart from Luton all the others have significantly higher gates than us Blackburn around 16,000 which is at least 60% higher than ours , so yes we are way behind these clubs ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MILLERSTALE View Post
    Apart from Luton all the others have significantly higher gates than us Blackburn around 16,000 which is at least 60% higher than ours , so yes we are way behind these clubs ?
    16,000? We've just played 'em and they had 12,000 there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    16,000? We've just played 'em and they had 12,000 there.
    Latest figures

    https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/c...ip/attendances

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    You say small fan base but compared to Blackpool,Blackburn ,Preston .Wigan and Luton they aren't a great deal different in numbers to us.Apart from Luton, they can all accomodate far bigger away fans than us.
    Luton Town is a remarkable story, from playing in the old first division against teams like Manchester United to dropping down the leagues and a club being in turmoil when they had the big points deduction that eventually saw them out of the football league.
    They got back to the championship doing it the hard way They have a sustainable financial mode of operating.
    It's only this past few seasons they've spent big (by big I mean between £1m to £2m on players) helped along the way by selling two young players for over £10m.
    It can be done the hard way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    You say small fan base but compared to Blackpool,Blackburn ,Preston .Wigan and Luton they aren't a great deal different in numbers to us.Apart from Luton, they can all accomodate far bigger away fans than us.
    Not sure you can compare like for like with the above clubs apart from Luton Town.
    Blackpool are owned by an investment banker that used to be but no longer based in Hong Kong.
    Blackburn are still owned by the Venkys and a club that previously ran up debts of well over £100m.
    PNE not too long ago were £8m in the red, fortunately they had Trevor Hemmings as owner, sadly TH passed away last year and I don't know who owns them.
    Wigan have also recently had financial problems and have managed to overcome them.

    Luton Town is the stand out one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godsend.F.C. View Post
    Not sure you can compare like for like with the above clubs apart from Luton Town.
    Blackpool are owned by an investment banker that used to be but no longer based in Hong Kong.
    Blackburn are still owned by the Venkys and a club that previously ran up debts of well over £100m.
    PNE not too long ago were £8m in the red, fortunately they had Trevor Hemmings as owner, sadly TH passed away last year and I don't know who owns them.
    Wigan have also recently had financial problems and have managed to overcome them.

    Luton Town is the stand out one.
    If we want to emulate Luton I'd be happy with that -Especially as their popular young manager had his head turned by a bigger club and it all went tits up in a few months and he returned to Luton to continue progressing them.

    The Paulwarinigal Son

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    Stop taking sense,it's heresy on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    I was going to keep out of this, but I can't let this one pass by.

    It's not a chairman's job to fund a business. It's his job to lead the business in a manner that meets its objectives and protects and serves the interest of its shareholders.

    In this case, the effective owner of the business is also TS. The objectives that he has set are to keep the club financially stable and to achieve all it can through the revenue it generates and the additional funding he provides.

    Under the stewardship of TS, the club has achieved a degree of stability and success that is unprecedented in over the previous thirty years and arguably longer.

    I get that people want more. I do. But to demand more or expect more shows an unrealistic and, frankly, disgraceful sense of entitlement.

    We really should reflect on the turmoil that we used to face and which, sadly, clubs like Bury no longer face.
    Agree with all you say some fans have ambition some fans are happy with what we have

    But I disagree football is totally different to most clubs.

    Even more so a club the size off rotherham

    We don't have the fan base or the glamour to be self sufficient.

    So it is his Job to underwrite/fund the extra the club needs.

    With regards to people happy been a yo yo club.

    They tell like promotion is guaranteed when we go down.

    Paul Warne has left now so it's even less guaranteed.

    Than what happens 3-5 years in league 1.. 5-7k attendances.

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    Smaller clubs like ours can make it big,there are other examples, but...they usually spend big to do it.
    In the last 20 years or so,the likes of Barnsley Blackpool, Reading, Wigan, Portsmouth, Bolton, etc,have all managed it.
    I honestly think that with a good manager,some astute signings, and a chunk of luck we could make the top 6.
    Sadly our best chance of this is now working elsewhere.

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