O/T Coronavirus Thread

[CAMiller]

I can smell smoke from people 10 -15 meters away.
From their lungs. Surely a virus could cover the same distance.
Please say I'm talking daft.

I get your point but as it's transmitted in droplets it would have to be a pretty strong cough, sneeze, gob, ejaculation or projectile vomit to cover 30'-50'

[MillerBill]

I get your point but as it's transmitted in droplets it would have to be a pretty strong cough, sneeze, gob, ejaculation or projectile vomit to cover 30'-50'

Italy,Spain and other European countries are a wake up call.heed this warning.If everyone is over 6 foot away there's a lesser chance of being 6 foot under!!!!

[Exiletyke]

Not the only way it's transmitted CAM

[CAMiller]

Not the only way it's transmitted CAM

I didn't say it was but he was asking about people 10m-15m away and transmission similar to cigarette smoke. Obviously on surfaces is probably the way it's being spread the most, hence the hand washing and face touching advice.

[KerrAvon]

I recognise that people are going out for awalk who don't normally do it but some people do regularly go for walks and exercise you cant pen those sort of people in, think of their mental health plus as long as they are keeping 2m away from everyone they CANT pass on the disease. You tell me how they can!
Some people get a bit obsessive about this you can't go out of your front gate and its nonsense as long as you follow the rules.

2m reduces the risk of transmission, it doesn't eliminate it. If a person coughs or sneezes they create an aerosol of micro- droplets that can carry a virus. That aerosol can remain suspended in the air for some time.

On sunny days in particular, any virus in the droplets will be killed by UV light, but that is not instantaneous.

[rolymiller]

2m reduces the risk of transmission, it doesn't eliminate it. If a person coughs or sneezes they create an aerosol of micro- droplets that can carry a virus. That aerosol can remain suspended in the air for some time.

On sunny days in particular, any virus in the droplets will be killed by UV light, but that is not instantaneous.

I don't for one minute believe you and flour have not left your home or don't intend to. You will not be able to do it for long if you havent. it helps if you are not being hyocritical on here.

JUst to ad to my previous point what about people with mental health issues to start with. You are ignoring a big chunk of the population there,

I will carry on going out with my daily exercise while ever I'm allowed as will millions of others and so they should. Yes theres a slight chance there might be summat lingering in the air but come on is it a million to one or summat?



I keep saying this but you need to focus on the people who are really taking the piss not the exercisers not thar it will make any difference.


Boris will have accounted for non compliers and aerosols in the air in his calculations. If he aint hes dafter than I thought.

Its dead simple. Damage limitation. Source the health system and lock in the vulnerable.

One last point. IT could be me who is one of the victims of this but I am willing to risk that for my sanity and physical health (Healthy people have better immune systems by the way).

[flourbasher]

I don't for one minute believe you and flour have not left your home or don't intend to. You will not be able to do it for long if you havent. it helps if you are not being hyocritical on here.

JUst to ad to my previous point what about people with mental health issues to start with. You are ignoring a big chunk of the population there,

I will carry on going out with my daily exercise while ever I'm allowed as will millions of others and so they should. Yes theres a slight chance there might be summat lingering in the air but come on is it a million to one or summat?



I keep saying this but you need to focus on the people who are really taking the piss not the exercisers not thar it will make any difference.).

No matter what you think you can't guarantee that you won't come into close contact with others. Impossible to guarantee it and if a lot of people take that risk then the virus has an opportunity to run riot.

Last time I left my garden was Monday afternoon before the lockdown and I've no plans to leave my property for the foreseeable future. We have enough food for a week or two.

No one,s saying anti exercise.
I've found most forms of exercise is good for the mind and so is a workout in the house/garden so the public can comply with the directive and still have a healthy mind. Complete red herring to suggest stopping walking could lead to mental health issues. There's temporary alternatives whilst we get over this issue, it just needs a bit of lateral thinking

Stay at home and save lives. Really simple and clear

[rolymiller]

For a week or two? You have a lot more chance of picking up the bug in a crowded supermarket than a quiet street, I think you are imagining the streets are more busy than they actually are if you are not going out into them . I was out today for about an hour. In that time I saw about 10 people all were well spaced. I passed about 4.AT least 4 of them wrre joggers who would be unlikely to be running if they felt crap. I do enough running to know that your body doesnt feel like running if you feel crap. THe roads and pavements were very quiet so it was easy enough to detour round people. I live in a reasonably averagely busy area normally. THe only people who were not following the rules were people who werent exercising ie stood about talking.

You still haven't commented on my benefits of exercise ie protected immune system nor what some poor buggers might have to contend with if they are penned in for months. Mental health issues can't just be dismissed they themselves can lead to deaths.

Some people by the way aint the space to exercise or the tools to do it. We dont all live with big gardens and have our own gym. Or even know how to do it. Everyone knows how to walk don;t they, Its simple and easy.

I think you need to get this into perspective and stop making this issue sound very simplistic. It aint not everybody lives or thinks like you.

[flourbasher]

[QUOTE=rolymiller;39464426]For a week or two? You have a lot more chance of picking up the bug in a crowded supermarket than a quiet street, I think you are imagining the streets are more busy than they actually are if you are not going out into them . I was out today for about an hour. In that time I saw about 10 people all were well spaced. I passed about 4.AT least 4 of them wrre joggers who would be unlikely to be running if they felt crap. I do enough running to know that your body doesnt feel like running if you feel crap. THe roads and pavements were very quiet so it was easy enough to detour round people. I live in a reasonably averagely busy area normally. THe only people who were not following the rules were people who werent exercising ie stood about talking.

You still haven't commented on my benefits of exercise ie protected immune system nor what some poor buggers might have to contend with if they are penned in for months. Mental health issues can't just be dismissed they themselves can lead to deaths.

Some people by the way aint the space to exercise or the tools to do it. We dont all live with big gardens and have our own gym. Or even know how to do it. Everyone knows how to walk don;t they, Its simple and easy.

I think you need to get this into perspective and stop making this issue sound very simplistic. It aint not everybody lives or thinks like you.[/QUOTE




I've said I'm not anti exercise. Exercise is an excellent thing to do. I do lots of it partially for the reasons you mention. What bit of changing your regime from walking running to exercising at home don't you understand? Home gym,s and expensive fit bits are completely unnecessary. The news bulletins have been littered with examples of how to exercise at home for those people who can't think for themselves. No big house or big garden required

You,re asking me to get things into perspective.
The irony.
Check this out from BBC News tonight

A 21-year-old woman with no underlying conditions has died after contracting coronavirus, according to her family.
Chloe Middleton, from High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, died last week.
In a Facebook post, her aunt Emily Mistry said Ms Middleton "had passed away from Covid-19" and urged others to "do your bit" to stop the spread of the disease.
According to government figures, most patients who have died with coronavirus had pre-existing medical conditions.
There have been concerns that younger people were ignoring warnings over its spread, believing the contagion was only a danger to the elderly.
But in a series of Facebook posts, Ms Middleton's family urged the public to heed safety advice and take the virus "seriously".
'Shattered'
Her mother, Diane Middleton, wrote: "Please think again.
"Speaking from a personal experience, this so-called virus has taken the life of my 21-year-old daughter."
Ms Mistry added: "My beautiful, kind-hearted 21 year old niece has passed away from Covid-19.
"She had no underlying health conditions."
She said the family was "shattered beyond belief".
"The reality of this virus is only just unfolding before our very eyes," she added. "Please, please adhere to government guidelines.
"Do your bit. Protect yourselves and protect others. The virus isn't spreading, people are spreading the virus."
Should young people be worried about coronavirus?
Ms Middleton's sister, Amy Louise, added that it was "about time people took this seriously, before too many people end up in this devastating position".

[rolymiller]

http://theconversation.com/should-i-...e-curve-133861

A little reading info for the anti exercisers out there