Two Reasons

[ramspride]

1 Too many young kids.

2 No one willing to hold the ball and purge forward.

[RydeRam]

dont forget the amount of games we had over the festive period. This had a negative effect on a young side. it showed against Chelski and we were definitely leggy against Fester. Festers fitness levels were far superior to ours, they never let us get anywhere near the ball after the first 15 mins.

[lewyman633]

Did anyone really expect us to get anything against Leicester or Chelsea ?

[Bear DCFC]

Did anyone really expect us to get anything against Leicester or Chelsea ?

Nope, Leicester have been our bogey team for a while and their the best team in the league. Chelsea needs no explanation.

It's the manner in which we were beaten that most people are a bit ****y about.

[bigmattvdcfc]

It was men against boys.

Lets face it we haven't been playing well for the back end of our good run, but we had a bit of luck on our side.

Now the luck has run out and our players are being exposed for the average players that they are.

Being organised, having players do the basics right, playing players in their right positions will undoubtedly improve results, but natural talent and ability mean that any improvement is only going to go so far before the lack of talent is exposed.

An example of this is Buxton, been playing well for a while now, but realistically he amongst others is simply not good enough to do what Derby need of him.

And if we did get promoted which I doubt we will, does anyone truly think that even a quarter of our current players could cut it in the Premiership?

[swaledale]

Main reason is that the squad does not have as good quality players as some think, I've maintained that overall it is an average squad, sure there is the odd gem, Bryson for example, others such as Hughes have potential, others such as martin are Ok, but there was a reason why he was'nt used much by Norwich in the championship and not at all in the prem.

SM has got them playing above their ability, but it cant last and any players have a drop in form especially young ones. yes Friday was disappointing, but its what happens now that will be the test.

[Rattea]

I think most reader of the board will remember how you kept your feet in the ground during the run and realised it was mainly because we were playing lower half of the table teams conveniently all together. You stood fast and even when people barracked you for holding this view and them going on about it was all down to McClarens tactics and Clough was useless.

Oh hang on a minute ... That might have been me!!!!

YOu really do make it up as you go along dont you

COMEDY GOLD

[Rapid]

I can't believe how much football fans overreact. we've lost one game to a wigan side that kicked the **** out of us. we've lost to one of the best sides in Europe. then we lost away at top of the league. before that we won 8 out of 9 or whatever. chill out. have faith.

[triz]

Win a few in a row and we are the best team in the league, lose a few and we are the worst. Luckily there is the sane few who use reason and logic.

[Mickleover_Ram]

The Rat have faith Rapid? your joking surely lol He is only happy slating the side

With lots on here, it seems to be either we are champions league contenders (let alone championship) or we should be in the blue square league (if it still exists) lol

why cant people just have a normal debate with an open mind?