Football Fight Club

[sheffieldmiller]

Gees... Couldn't believe this documentary on bbc3 last night.

Would seem a lot of clubs now have 2 firms the old firm and the youth firm.

All I can say I hope we don't behave like this on away days... Who ever knew that Bury had an active youth firm... Yes our second team lol... They were a bunch of marons.

Surely theses idiots arnt proper football fans

[Ellis_D]

You see I've never understood that attitude. These blokes travel all over the country and very often around Europe watching their team, spending thousands of pounds every year.

Surely if they weren't real football fans, they could just go out in town on a Friday and Saturday night and have a scrap? Or join a boxing club?

I think they are real fans, just like other real fans, but they also enjoy a ruck.

Call them idiots, knobheads, a waste of space, whatever you like, but I do at least believe they are real fans.

[EmpireStateOfMind]

Ellis they are not fans though are they? They bring nothing but shame on their club and its genuine decent fans.

There's nothing better than an away game where you can chat to the locals and have a drink in their pubs without trouble. The reason many people are turned off football is the losers that call themselves fans but are really just pathetic knobheads

[sheffieldmiller]

They were def not fans, some weren't aloud near the grounds and used social media to meet up with other firms. Weren't interested in watching the game

[Ellis_D]

Ellis they are not fans though are they? They bring nothing but shame on their club and its genuine decent fans.

There's nothing better than an away game where you can chat to the locals and have a drink in their pubs without trouble. The reason many people are turned off football is the losers that call themselves fans but are really just pathetic knobheads

I do still think most are real fans, but just like a scrap too. They do bring shame on a club and it p1sses you off that you can't take kids to certain grounds, or that you have to watch yourselves because of a bunch of knobheads who want a fight, but there you go.

In fairness, most of them won't attack shirters, just like minded people. But sometimes you get an arsehole who will attack innocent fans, and other times you get them smashing a pub, not thinking that there may also be innocent men, women and children in there who don't want a fight and are ****ting them

[Ellis_D]

They were def not fans, some weren't aloud near the grounds and used social media to meet up with other firms. Weren't interested in watching the game

I saw the documentary mate, and that's a lie and you know it. I'd say all the ones that were interviewed were real fans. Some were banned and still wanted to go for a fight, but that's because they love fighting as well as football.

How do you think peeople become football hooligans? 99% of them will be because they support their club and love going to watch them. Then the joining the firm and the violence comes afterwards.

I've met enough footy hooligans, read enough books and seen enough documentaries to know this.

They may well be scum of the earth, complete bellends, but still are real fans.

[CAMiller]

They were def not fans, some weren't aloud near the grounds and used social media to meet up with other firms. Weren't interested in watching the game

I saw the documentary mate, and that's a lie and you know it. I'd say all the ones that were interviewed were real fans. Some were banned and still wanted to go for a fight, but that's because they love fighting as well as football.

How do you think peeople become football hooligans? 99% of them will be because they support their club and love going to watch them. Then the joining the firm and the violence comes afterwards.

I've met enough footy hooligans, read enough books and seen enough documentaries to know this.

They may well be scum of the earth, complete bellends, but still are real fans.[/quote]

...and you call others on here apologists?

[Ellis_D]

They were def not fans, some weren't aloud near the grounds and used social media to meet up with other firms. Weren't interested in watching the game

I saw the documentary mate, and that's a lie and you know it. I'd say all the ones that were interviewed were real fans. Some were banned and still wanted to go for a fight, but that's because they love fighting as well as football.

How do you think peeople become football hooligans? 99% of them will be because they support their club and love going to watch them. Then the joining the firm and the violence comes afterwards.

I've met enough footy hooligans, read enough books and seen enough documentaries to know this.

They may well be scum of the earth, complete bellends, but still are real fans.[/quote]

...and you call others on here apologists?[/quote]

I'd hardly call that apologis

[Common Sense]

They're in it for the animosity/atmosphere that comes from confrontation. The football team crowds provide a cover (a natural attraction of safety in numbers), and an identity (something to fight for).

A lot, not all, tend to be found on EDL & Britain First marches because it provides the same cocktail of 'entertainment'.

[Ellis_D]

They're in it for the animosity/atmosphere that comes from confrontation. The football team crowds provide a cover (a natural attraction of safety in numbers), and an identity (something to fight for).

A lot, not all, tend to be found on EDL & Britain First marches because it provides the same cocktail of 'entertainment'.

So do you think these people start going to football matches because they can have a fight?