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Thread: TV Referral System

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    TV Referral System

    What do we think about this?

    Managers being able to challenge referees and ask them to change decisions during breaks in play?

    Sounds unworkable to me. - view external link

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    re: TV Referral System

    Totaly unworkable. So how long can a manager wait then? What if there is no break in play for a good few minutes? The situation could arise where following a contensious peanlaty incident a player from the attacking team could deliberatley kick the ball into play just to force a review. MADNESS.

    Why not the chance for referees to question managers about team selection following a break in play. A ref could ask for a bad miss to be reviewed and if its as bad as it first looked ask the manager to sub the player. Stupid I know but no more stupid than the original idea.

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    re: TV Referral System

    Let the Managers manage and let the Refs ref!

    Carry on as we are and we'll be playing football like we did at school. They'll be fighting it out amongst themselves and agreeing with the one that's built like a brick **** house!

    It won't work!

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    Obviously this is something needing careful thought in its application but I think it could be valuable in certain areas. Everyone was against goal line technology when it was first mooted, but now it seems to be working and will avoid the sorts of howlers that have happened in the past. If done carefully, so could the review system.

    This works well in, for example, the NFL which is a very fragmented game and there are many natural breaks to enable reviews to carry on. Its also heavily televised and analysed from every angle by the TV crews: yet still mistakes are made despite everything.

    Clearly soccer (phrase used to differentiate only) is not as obviously suited to challenges: not so many natural breaks, nothing like the saturation TV coverage of all matches and a thing called the advantage rule to accommodate along the way, so it wont be easy.

    If challenges were restricted to, say, penalties, redcard instances etc and the number of challenges available was severely restricte

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    re: TV Referral System

    [quote="roger_ramjet"]Obviously this is something needing careful thought in its application but I think it could be valuable in certain areas. Everyone was against goal line technology when it was first mooted, but now it seems to be working and will avoid the sorts of howlers that have happened in the past. If done carefully, so could the review system.

    This works well in, for example, the NFL which is a very fragmented game and there are many natural breaks to enable reviews to carry on. Its also heavily televised and analysed from every angle by the TV crews: yet still mistakes are made despite everything.

    Clearly soccer (phrase used to differentiate only) is not as obviously suited to challenges: not so many natural breaks, nothing like the saturation TV coverage of all matches and a thing called the advantage rule to accommodate along the way, so it wont be easy.

    If challenges were restricted to, say, penalties, redcard instances etc and the num

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    Clearly "cut and paste"

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    re: TV Referral System

    [quote="minesahartington"[/quote]

    Don't assume others operate in the same way as you Hart...Some of us can string coherent sentences together without recourse to copying. ****.

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    re: TV Referral System

    What about interpretation of a tackle. How the ref sees it compared to how someone else sees it?

    What would be the next step? The referee reffering to a mmonitor before every decision?

    Also what about gamesmanship? A manager using a review in the last few minutes to slow the game down or disrupt the opposition.

    Finally it would help if people knew the exact rules. How many managers, commentators and pundits do? For example. ...diving itself is not a bookable offence, it only becomes so when the player appeals. Until that point it might be a genuine slip by the attacker.

    Stupid idea and not at all workable, in every other sport it is used, it is used for factual calls that can't be disputed such as line calls like in tennis, rugby and cricket. Football doesn't work like that apart from goals!

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    re: TV Referral System

    Works well in Rugby!

    If it were for penalty, off side leading to a goal and line calls then its workable.

    Can you imagine how exciting it would have been with Atwell against the Red Dogs!

    Anything else not so!

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    Sorry Rattea but I disagree.

    Penalties are about interpretation of the tackle and not fact and in the case of offsides there would need to be lines to judge.

    In other sports that use it, it is a question of fact and not interpretation. Cricket with no-balls/run outs, edges (hot spot) etc, Rugby, forward passes, offside, trys.

    For penalties how many cameras would there be? Two cameras would show two different angles and therefore two possible verdicts.

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