What's Happened to England?

[Romanis]

The team feels and resembles a mid-table Prem team like say Stoke or Villa.

I'm sure there's always a die-hard core group of fans who'll support and follow England with a fervour and frenzy, but generally there seems to be apathy towards them by many Englishmen. Worse, that's even spread to the players.

Sure some remain proud to wear the '3 Lions,' Rooney claims this all the time and so do most, but they don't seem to show the same when playing. It's more like going through the motions, okay we'll give a go and try to win if possible, but if unable, just too bad. Some don't even bother at all.

It was said before that this was due to the rivalry between players at top clubs, eg: Liverpool and Man Utd, now maybe City, Chelsea v United. But they've denied this, and I don't think it had much truth to it.

Rather the players were more concerned with club football than international duty. The hunger was for their clubs to succeed first, then maybe England. Or maybe they've grown too compl

[zidazaga]

You are spot on with what you say. All the hype about Rooney is a load of crap. Some players are far better. I have just watched the first half against slavinia and not one shot on target. They have restarted and the comentater nearly screamed his head of because Rooney had a poor effert nearly go towards goal. We will just have to get used to th fact that England are very poor. I miself have been an England fan for 55 years but I am now getting pis ed of.ha ha ha they have just gone into the lead via an own goal. Now they go mad Rooney scores a penalty. Come back championship all is forgiven...c.o.u.reds

[Trickytreesreds]

You are spot on with what you say. All the hype about Rooney is a load of crap. Some players are far better. I have just watched the first half against slavinia and not one shot on target. They have restarted and the comentater nearly screamed his head of because Rooney had a poor effert nearly go towards goal. We will just have to get used to th fact that England are very poor. I miself have been an England fan for 55 years but I am now getting pis ed of.ha ha ha they have just gone into the lead via an own goal. Now they go mad Rooney scores a penalty. Come back championship all is forgiven...c.o.u.reds

Same everytime we play. Hype/Hope/over expectation

They are second rate and have been for 20 years.

98-2002 was our last decent squad. The babes with talent, wasted by Hoddle and that 4 eyed tw*t Ericsson.
Rooney, 1/4 million a week, you have to be having a ****ing giraffe.

We are now paying the price for the flood of foreig

[BrianRiceandPeas]

Thought they did ok myself.

Positive displays from both full backs . We need more goals from the midfield though . I was never a lampard fan but we've not replaced his or Gerrards goal contribution. I can't see Wiltshire or Henderson scoring over 10 for England any time this decade.

[Romanis]

Time Farage ran the FA,

Aye, if good ol' Nigel ran the FA, the only cup we'll be playing in/for, will be the Stanley Rous Home Nations Trophy.

And to become WC, we'll play Eire every 4 years for the right!