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Thread: Russian Roulette!

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    Russian Roulette!

    Just reading the Dyche interview and he's talking about the amount of money being offered by Derby. He's states he thinks we over paid for shackell and the wages on offer are record contract even for us (remember ravenelli).

    Ok alarm bells going off all over the place here.

    I've always stated that I don't want a sugar daddy and for these exact reasons it's unsustainable and really could see us ending up like Pompey just disintegrating.

    I know MM appears to be bank rolling it all but I really would like some transparency now. We don't know anything for sure. Have we got another mortgage on the ground or is the money being borrowed or loaned. Are the wages being under written and what about FFP and I think some will have a shock that it will be enforced at some level.

    Concerns MM could pull out or God forbid anything happen to him.
    We just fail on the pitch and implode.
    How are players on old contacts going to feel with other players coming in on silly money.

    The list goes on

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    re: Russian Roulette!

    [quote="Rattea"]Just reading the Dyche interview and he's talking about the amount of money being offered by Derby. He's states he thinks we over paid for shackell and the wages on offer are record contract even for us (remember ravenelli).

    Ok alarm bells going off all over the place here.

    I've always stated that I don't want a sugar daddy and for these exact reasons it's unsustainable and really could see us ending up like Pompey just disintegrating.

    I know MM appears to be bank rolling it all but I really would like some transparency now. We don't know anything for sure. Have we got another mortgage on the ground or is the money being borrowed or loaned. Are the wages being under written and what about FFP and I think some will have a shock that it will be enforced at some level.

    Concerns MM could pull out or God forbid anything happen to him.
    We just fail on the pitch and implode.
    How are players on old contacts going to feel with other players c

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    re: Russian Roulette!

    I understand where you are coming from Rattea, but I think your concerns are a little premature. You ask for 'transparency'. I agree. However, you are basing your concerns on the words of a manager who has just lost another of his star players. He either has to say to the Burnley board, 'I quit', or put up with it and paint a picture that his hands were tied to placate the Burnley fans. For whatever reason (and I don't know his personal circumstances), he has chosen the latter route. Just for good measure, he has thrown in a few digs at the player and the buying club at the same time. I think this is regrettable, but I understand his bitter disappointment. He has been put in an impossible position by his board.

    Until we know (if we ever will) what the terms of the deal are, it is premature to assume that Dyche is right and we have broken the bank. According to the Telegraph, our spending this summer has been in instalments and we are still within the rules of FFP. Moreover, I suspect

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    re: Russian Roulette!

    A lad in my class had a peanut allergy, at times we would play Russian roulette with a bag of revels

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    re: Russian Roulette!

    You also have to remember Dyche was passed over for the Derby job in favour of Clement. He was likely interviewed, or at the very least approached through his agent. Another reason to be bitter.

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    re: Russian Roulette!

    Quote Originally Posted by hantsram
    You also have to remember Dyche was passed over for the Derby job in favour of Clement. He was likely interviewed, or at the very least approached through his agent. Another reason to be bitter.
    Never been keen on Dyche always sounds as he knows best attitude.

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    re: Russian Roulette!

    The transfer fees are spread out over the course of a contract, whether or not the fee has already been paid in full. As the rulkes have been relaxed, and you put the fees over the course of the contracts given out, we're looking at about an extra 2.5 million a year, we're not in any kind of trouble.

    Mel Morris stated we couldn't afford insurance for injured players last year, as it would have tipped us over FFP. This year we are covered. That says everything. We're inside FFP.

    Now, obviously we can't do this every summer, it would all start to add up.

    As for wages:

    Lingard, Ince, Bent, Jamie Ward, Lee Naylor, Mark O'Brien, Shaun Barker, Tom Naylor, Zak Whitbread, John Eustace and Omar Mascarell have gone.

    Ince, Bent , Pearce, Weimann, Shackell, Carson and Baird have come in. For me, there isn't a great increase in wages there.

    Roos and Rawson have also gone out on loan, and i am expecting more to go out permanently.

    For me, we must be inside by quite a way. Ignore DYche, his c

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    re: Russian Roulette!

    It's a genuine and sensible concern, look how poor old Lionel lost his fortune bank rolling promotion.

    The difference now is the risk is spread across several very rich people. Mel Morris himself is very wealthy. The worry is if they tire of the train set.

    The fact is though, it is what it is, we can't influence the spending so we have to trust the custodians of the club to do the right thing, whatever that is.

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    re: Russian Roulette!

    I agree with the concerns that people are having, but I wouldn't believe that everything Dyche said is 100% true. He's not likely to come out and say that Burnley weren't prepared to offer Shackell a decent contract and that he didn't blame him for leaving. Remember, how we were told that Huddlestone transfer was good for the player and good for the club!

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    re: Russian Roulette!

    The key points are that the club state that they will remain within FFP guidelines, and that Mel, Brett and the ownership group are committed to cover losses up to those limits.

    We aren't in Birmingham/Portsmouth/Blackburn/Forest types of territory here. Relax and enjoy the ride.

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