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    The SNP's propaganda machine

    https://anoutsideviewwordpresscom.wo...da-percentage/

    The Propaganda percentage……

    So the Scottish Government have issued figures relating to sectarianism and hate crime in Scotland, more so Scottish Football. How easy it is to break down those percentages to form a truer view on who the real sectarian bigots are. According to Mr Matheson our Justice Secretary “There is no place in Scotland for any crime motivated by prejudice, be it racial, religious, homophobic or any other form of intolerance.” That in itself is quite funny since figures clearly show Scotland to be a very intolerant country when it comes to culture, race and religion…….walk down the street displaying a Catholic cross or a Celtic top and await the silence. Wear dress associated to Islam and await the silence ….try walking down a street with a collarette on and await the backlash of “Dirty Orange *******” chants, Scotland is a very tolerant country right enough !!!

    Figures released show Roman Catholicism is the religion most often noted in religiously-aggravated charges (51% in 2015-16), followed by Protestantism (24%) and Islam (23%). Now let us look at the Scottish Population . Latest count shows somewhere around 5.4 million people live here , more than half are religious free, not interested in any form of religion and prefer not to be classed as religious. Two point six (2.6) million people see themselves as Christian….34.2% of that figure are Catholic or 913,000. To manipulate figures all we do is follow the SNP method …..1,749,600 protestants..committed sectarian offences against 16% of the population while 912,600 catholics….committed sectarian offences against 34% of the population..rocket science? No, just a twist of the figures. But this clearly shows that Protestants are more likely to be victims of sectarianism than Catholics…a bit different from Mr Matheson’s figures.

    Study the figures of Football hate crime. There were a total of 287 football related hate crimes in 2015-2016 out of a total attendance figure of around 3,421,000 over every game played in Scotland. Now take a quick look at the 134 charges involving hate crime aimed at Islam / Muslim who have a population in Scotland of about 95 thousand . At this point please note that the Scottish Government think Muslim is a religion which of course it is not….quote from the Gov website “95 thousand people in Scotland describing their religion as Muslim”…oh dear. The point here is 134 charges of hate against 95,000 people. Remember 287 charges against 3.4 million.

    Move on to the “***ual” figures and we find that 1,020 charges were reported with an aggravation of prejudice relating to ***ual orientation against a government figure of 86,000 people believed to be gay. Remember 287 charges against 3.4 million.

    Studying the Daily Record and its hate filled agenda we see that Rangers fans have committed 71 offences against Celtic fans 27 offences. “While I am concerned at an increase in the number of charges on last year, including the rise in alleged offences against Islam, it does indicate an improvement in the willingness of the public to report these crimes, and that should be welcomed.”Says our Justice Secretary.
    What Mr Matheson fails to tell you is he and his SNP colleagues, Nicola Sturgeon and The Lord Advocate included, have failed to acknowledge a dossier sent to over 25 politicians and organisations in Scotland that contained over 100 complaints of sectarian hate crime aimed at the Protestant faith and went completely ignored and unanswered.

    Ibrox was also the football stadium with the highest proportion of charges brought, with 17 per cent of the total alleged offences taking place there. Morton’s Cappielow Park was the second highest, with 8 per cent. If you have ever wished for a one sided approach then it is this..I wonder how Mr Lawwell managed to convince Mr Matheson to omit the arrest figures at Parkhead? A few FOI requests show that there are equally high arrests at the stadium where terrorist / hate/ singing is a common past-time.




    And of course away from home too……………….


    Perhaps if Mr Matheson had instructed his State controlled Police Force to act quicker on the dossier also sent to them, the complainer would not have given up after waiting over a year for a response. That is 100 sectarian hate crimes that would have changed the figures. The true figure would have read Protestantism is the religion most often noted in religiously-aggravated charges (51% in 2015-16), followed by Catholicism (24%) and Islam (23%). The true figures would have changed the above statement to read Rangers fans have committed 71 offences against Celtic fans 127 offences.

    What is worse is the fact that Mr Matheson, along with the retiring Lord Advocate Frank Mullholland and former Justice Secretary Kenneth MacAskill are all Season Ticket holders at Parkhead where they will always here the sectarianism but choose to ignore it…ignoring is a common trait at that ground. The three of them openly think that singing a song about The Billy Boys is far more criminal than gay people being victimised because of their ***ual beliefs, far more criminal than hate crime towards people perceived to be of Islamic faith. The bottom line here is our country is in denial of it’s real social problems and it is obvious that our government cannot control the serious issues so decide to attack a group of people perceived to be Protestant while ignoring the real hate in the country.

    Propaganda, you could not make it up

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    Bore off Rholf.

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    For anybody who can't be arsed readin rolf's pish here's a quick summary....

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    Figures released show Roman Catholicism is the religion most often noted in religiously-aggravated charges (51% in 2015-16), followed by Protestantism (24%) and Islam (23%).
    But this clearly shows that Protestants are more likely to be victims of sectarianism than Catholics…a bit different from Mr Matheson’s figures.

    Actually, what the percentages above mean is that out of 100% of religiously aggravated offences, more than half of them were committed against Catholics, whilst less than a quarter were committed against Protestants.
    Not sure on what planet you have to be living to interpret that as meaning that Protestants were more likely to be the victims.

    At least it is a bit of a glimpse into the hun mindset where black is white, wrong is right, and anything green must be expelled...
    Would be funny if it wasn't so desperately sad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSnakes View Post
    Figures released show Roman Catholicism is the religion most often noted in religiously-aggravated charges (51% in 2015-16), followed by Protestantism (24%) and Islam (23%).
    But this clearly shows that Protestants are more likely to be victims of sectarianism than Catholics…a bit different from Mr Matheson’s figures.

    Actually, what the percentages above mean is that out of 100% of religiously aggravated offences, more than half of them were committed against Catholics, whilst less than a quarter were committed against Protestants.
    Not sure on what planet you have to be living to interpret that as meaning that Protestants were more likely to be the victims.

    At least it is a bit of a glimpse into the hun mindset where black is white, wrong is right, and anything green must be expelled...
    Would be funny if it wasn't so desperately sad...
    If you intend to argue the case at least quote from the article correctly -

    "To manipulate figures all we do is follow the SNP method …..1,749,600 protestants..committed sectarian offences against 16% of the population while 912,600 catholics….committed sectarian offences against 34% of the population..rocket science? No, just a twist of the figures. But this clearly shows that Protestants are more likely to be victims of sectarianism than Catholics…a bit different from Mr Matheson’s figures."

    Perhaps if you read it slowly it may become clear as to why its titled The percentage propaganda.

    Why have they ignored this dossier?

    "What Mr Matheson fails to tell you is he and his SNP colleagues, Nicola Sturgeon and The Lord Advocate included, have failed to acknowledge a dossier sent to over 25 politicians and organisations in Scotland that contained over 100 complaints of sectarian hate crime aimed at the Protestant faith and went completely ignored and unanswered."

    "The three of them openly think that singing a song about The Billy Boys is far more criminal than gay people being victimised because of their ***ual beliefs, far more criminal than hate crime towards people perceived to be of Islamic faith.
    The bottom line here is our country is in denial of it’s real social problems and it is obvious that our government cannot control the serious issues so decide to attack a group of people perceived to be Protestant while ignoring the real hate in the country."

    Sadly in the mind of the yahoo all the above is fine as long as they "dirty orange basturts" are getting it tight.

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    One of my favourite Robbie Coltrane sketches, thanks for that mate, made my day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangersmandownunder View Post
    If you intend to argue the case at least quote from the article correctly -

    "To manipulate figures all we do is follow the SNP method …..1,749,600 protestants..committed sectarian offences against 16% of the population while 912,600 catholics….committed sectarian offences against 34% of the population..rocket science? No, just a twist of the figures. But this clearly shows that Protestants are more likely to be victims of sectarianism than Catholics…a bit different from Mr Matheson’s figures."

    Perhaps if you read it slowly it may become clear as to why its titled The percentage propaganda.

    Why have they ignored this dossier?

    "What Mr Matheson fails to tell you is he and his SNP colleagues, Nicola Sturgeon and The Lord Advocate included, have failed to acknowledge a dossier sent to over 25 politicians and organisations in Scotland that contained over 100 complaints of sectarian hate crime aimed at the Protestant faith and went completely ignored and unanswered."

    "The three of them openly think that singing a song about The Billy Boys is far more criminal than gay people being victimised because of their ***ual beliefs, far more criminal than hate crime towards people perceived to be of Islamic faith.
    The bottom line here is our country is in denial of it’s real social problems and it is obvious that our government cannot control the serious issues so decide to attack a group of people perceived to be Protestant while ignoring the real hate in the country."

    Sadly in the mind of the yahoo all the above is fine as long as they "dirty orange basturts" are getting it tight.
    There isn't a case to argue. The article was written by a paranoid rabid hun convinced there is an anti-Protestant conspiracy in Scotland.
    His numbers are invented. There is an official publication - and figures for 2015-2016 have not even been released.
    The facts of the matter are as follows:
    The most recent official figure for crimes that involved an element of religious aggravation was 569.
    Using your 'source's figures, 290 of those were derogatory towards the Roman Catholic Church, 137 were derogatory towards Protestantism, and 131 against Islam.
    Now, regardless of how you spin it, or how you try to include spurious numbers yer man has simply made up, it is plain to see to ANYONE that the majority of cases, by a long way, were antagonistic towards the RC Church.

    I truly and sincerely do not understand how anyone can arrive at anything different.
    The (real) numbers do not lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangersmandownunder View Post
    If you intend to argue the case at least quote from the article correctly -

    "To manipulate figures all we do is follow the SNP method …..1,749,600 protestants..committed sectarian offences against 16% of the population while 912,600 catholics….committed sectarian offences against 34% of the population..rocket science? No, just a twist of the figures. But this clearly shows that Protestants are more likely to be victims of sectarianism than Catholics…a bit different from Mr Matheson’s figures."

    Perhaps if you read it slowly it may become clear as to why its titled The percentage propaganda.

    Why have they ignored this dossier?

    "What Mr Matheson fails to tell you is he and his SNP colleagues, Nicola Sturgeon and The Lord Advocate included, have failed to acknowledge a dossier sent to over 25 politicians and organisations in Scotland that contained over 100 complaints of sectarian hate crime aimed at the Protestant faith and went completely ignored and unanswered."

    "The three of them openly think that singing a song about The Billy Boys is far more criminal than gay people being victimised because of their ***ual beliefs, far more criminal than hate crime towards people perceived to be of Islamic faith.
    The bottom line here is our country is in denial of it’s real social problems and it is obvious that our government cannot control the serious issues so decide to attack a group of people perceived to be Protestant while ignoring the real hate in the country."

    Sadly in the mind of the yahoo all the above is fine as long as they "dirty orange basturts" are getting it tight.
    can I ask who made up the dossier and what are they claiming to be sectarian? This isn't another Rangers supporters group squealing about being called terms that aren't sectarian? If this is the case no wonder it would ignored as it would lack any credibility.

    The blog author also seems to make assumptions. 'catholics….committed sectarian offences against 34% of the population' I'm sorry but where does it say in these figures the religion of the perpetrator? It gives the religion of the victim. How do you and the blogger know the religion (if any) of the perpetrators?

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