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    Question for Fool Brittanias.

    How can someone who is born and raised in Scotland and who wants nothing other than the opportunity for his country to be in charge of running their own affairs and not be ruled by another country's Parliament nearly 500 miles away be regarded as a Separatist?

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    We have a Scottish government who have responsibility for running the things that make a difference to us in the main.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    We have a Scottish government who have responsibility for running the things that make a difference to us in the main.
    Devolution is Still being run by another country no matter how you look at it. Limited powers GIVEN. Limited Tax raising.Limited Welare powers, Limited V.A.T. contributions. No choice in being involved in conflicts and wars.

    No control over National Insurance,the minimum wage,Corporation Tax,trade union law, Borrowing powers,

    Having right wing Tory Governments we didn't vote for for the next 20-odd years.

    All during the 2014 referendum the Naesayers conceded Scotland had the people and resources to run their own affairs successfully. Their argument was that we were ""Better Together""

    What you must really get your head around Noah is Independence is NOT about the SNP its about the people of Scotland having the right to make choices. One day I really hope you come around to that way of thinking.. I really do. Until then you are ruled by another country that is the reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    Devolution is Still being run by another country no matter how you look at it. Limited powers GIVEN. Limited Tax raising.Limited Welare powers, Limited V.A.T. contributions. No choice in being involved in conflicts and wars.

    No control over National Insurance,the minimum wage,Corporation Tax,trade union law, Borrowing powers,

    Having right wing Tory Governments we didn't vote for for the next 20-odd years.

    All during the 2014 referendum the Naesayers conceded Scotland had the people and resources to run their own affairs successfully. Their argument was that we were ""Better Together""

    What you must really get your head around Noah is Independence is NOT about the SNP its about the people of Scotland having the right to make choices. One day I really hope you come around to that way of thinking.. I really do. Until then you are ruled by another country that is the reality.
    Which Scottish parties want independence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    Which Scottish parties want independence?
    The SNP are just a means to an end. I honestly think when Independence happens they will split. You really don't have to be a SNP member or voter to want Independence. You dont even have to like them like yersel. Many thousands of Labour voters/supporters voted Yes in 2014. I myself was amazed at the amount of non SNP folk I campaigned with in 2014. For sure there are loads of Unionists who dont want Indy as a principle irrespective of any benefits it would bring. I have always had the feeling about you that you're not anti-Independence per say. You just can't stand the SNP and thats a great pity as it obscures any vision of how things could be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    The SNP are just a means to an end. I honestly think when Independence happens they will split. You really don't have to be a SNP member or voter to want Independence. You dont even have to like them like yersel. Many thousands of Labour voters/supporters voted Yes in 2014. I myself was amazed at the amount of non SNP folk I campaigned with in 2014. For sure there are loads of Unionists who dont want Indy as a principle irrespective of any benefits it would bring. I have always had the feeling about you that you're not anti-Independence per say. You just can't stand the SNP and thats a great pity as it obscures any vision of how things could be.
    You never answered the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    Which Scottish parties want independence?
    the 2 parties that currently form the majority in the Scottish parliament - SNP and The Greens. Independence also has the support of socialists and many thousands of people who do not see themselves as alligned to any political party.

    Now I too would like an answer to the original question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogwaiCSC View Post
    the 2 parties that currently form the majority in the Scottish parliament - SNP and The Greens. Independence also has the support of socialists and many thousands of people who do not see themselves as alligned to any political party.

    Now I too would like an answer to the original question.
    Thread ender....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogwaiCSC View Post
    the 2 parties that currently form the majority in the Scottish parliament - SNP and The Greens. Independence also has the support of socialists and many thousands of people who do not see themselves as alligned to any political party.

    Now I too would like an answer to the original question.
    The Greens And I thought you were a serious poster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogwaiCSC View Post
    the 2 parties that currently form the majority in the Scottish parliament - SNP and The Greens. Independence also has the support of socialists and many thousands of people who do not see themselves as alligned to any political party.

    Now I too would like an answer to the original question.
    Still waiting I see....

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