FIFA's poppy fine

[Ram59]

I see FIFA have fined England €45000 for the remembrance day saga.

Question, why was the Irish FA only fined 5000 for a more political statement and also why only take action against them after the poppy incident. Would they have not bothered had the latest incident not arisen?

[Ram59]

I see FIFA have fined England €45000 for the remembrance day saga.

Question, why was the Irish FA only fined 5000 for a more political statement and also why only take action against them after the poppy incident. Would they have not bothered had the latest incident not arisen?

I should have included the fact that the Irish infraction happened months ago in celebration of the Easter uprising.

[Rattea]

Should have been a points deduction for all involved.

Sport and politics should be kept separate and I am not happy by national team represented something that I strongly disagree with. OK if it was still the world wars but now it encompasses the likes of the illegal invasion of Iraq is unacceptable.

[Ram59]

Should have been a points deduction for all involved.

Sport and politics should be kept separate and I am not happy by national team represented something that I strongly disagree with. OK if it was still the world wars but now it encompasses the likes of the illegal invasion of Iraq is unacceptable.

I think you have the wrong ideas about remembrance day. We don't remember the politicians who sent them there, we remember the people who lost their lives.

So what you're saying is that it is unacceptable to honour a young nurse who went to Iraq to help any injured person not just our forces. Yet you would gladly honour some bullying, wife beating so and so, who after committing atrocities to native women when advancing with our forces during ww2, got his come uppence?

No, in our hearts, we remember those that we feel deserve it, not the monsters, whatever the circumstances. Poppy day should be nothing to do with politicians.

[ramspride]

Should have been a points deduction for all involved.

Sport and politics should be kept separate and I am not happy by national team represented something that I strongly disagree with. OK if it was still the world wars but now it encompasses the likes of the illegal invasion of Iraq is unacceptable.

I don't like personal abuse on this website but Rattea you really are a PLONKER.

[triz]

Totally agree with rats, the poppy means something different and something grotesque to me now. A commemoration of the soldiers who went to murder countless Arabs for profit. England were rightly punished for wearing a political symbol, a law which applies to everyone, and idiots will think it's a disgrace as 'we' are special. Good old ingerland.

[roger_ramjet]

Well spake there Triz

[Ram59]

So, let me get this right. A load of squadies nicked a plane flew over to Iraq to kill Arabs and then rob them before coming home with their ill gotten gains.

There was me thinking Bliar sent them over and paid them peanuts to lose life and limb.

[Andy_Faber]

So, let me get this right. A load of squadies nicked a plane flew over to Iraq to kill Arabs and then rob them before coming home with their ill gotten gains.

There was me thinking Bliar sent them over and paid them peanuts to lose life and limb.

IMO its a personal thing. I throw what I have into Poppy Appeal collecting jars as a thank-you to those who've look after my welfare in ways I wouldn't dare. As it happens I DON'T wear a poppy because I don't wear any signs of allegiance apart from a set of DCFC cufflinks, but anyone who risks life (a close relative of mine did) and limb for my sake gets my vote

[triz]

Too right, anyone risking life and limb for my sake gets my vote. However no one has done that since the Falklands and even that political move by thatcher was debatable.

no Brit squaddie is currently doing anything for me except for selling there soul for a career.