Michael Fallon and the 'Sleazy 36'

[WBA123]

Michael Fallon resigns, or jumped before he was pushed, however you'd like to look at it.

Apparently there is a list of 36 Tory MPs on a 'Sleazy 36' list. The Tories themselves compiled this list and it was leaked. Seriously, this Govt is beyond incompetent.

Some of the acts on this list are unbelievable, including one MP whereby a video exists of three men urinating on him. Inappropriate behavior, ***ual assaults, using male and female prostitutes. Extra marital affairs and impregnating mistresses. You might say all of this is behind closed doors but if you're making public decisions, there are grounds for ridicule and blackmail amongst other things. And these are people who do this in jobs and homes paid for by taxpayer money.

Boris Johnson makes the list after signing an NDA with a female researcher. God only knows what he did with her.

If all this comes to light, it has the capacity to bring down an already weak and faltering government. Fingers crossed!

[soulman101]

Fallon was also involved in the expense scandal and had to pay back £8k.
That's 2 sackable offences in any other job, but not in Westminster your best mate dodgy dave gets him a knighthood.

[Newcy Wolf]

Horrible disgusting people.

It's probably the fault of the previous Labour government.

God help us if Corbyn gets in.

[stripes39]

If anyone thinks this will only apply to one party then you're deluded. Just as with the expenses scandal, this will apply across the entire house regardless of your political association. The Tories are a mostly useless party at the moment but the problem is, we'll get Corbyn. The feckless and wasters will be rewarded and big business and anyone with ambition will be derided as the enemy. Not a great state is it British politics?

[WBA123]

If anyone thinks this will only apply to one party then you're deluded. Just as with the expenses scandal, this will apply across the entire house regardless of your political association. The Tories are a mostly useless party at the moment but the problem is, we'll get Corbyn. The feckless and wasters will be rewarded and big business and anyone with ambition will be derided as the enemy. Not a great state is it British politics?

Agree that it probably applies across other parties, but other parties haven't compiled a list on their own MPs and then released it to the Press. Its just pure incompetence.

[phild]

Labour MP suspended for ***ual harassment

http://tinyurl.com/ybv88yvd

[Yarmbaggie]

I am no fan of politicians but my criticism of them is that they don’t seem to live in the real world and therefore can’t relate to it and therefore make stupid comments and decisions using what they think happens or what they think will be popular.

In this case they are living in the real world. Sleaze and ***ual harassment is what happens at all levels in society so in this case I cannot criticise them anymore than the rest of society. It has happened all my working life of 40 years from the late 60’s, and most times people either put up with it or turn a blind eye.

Those with money have more opportunity but that includes everyone not just politicians. When we the masses have money to spend then there is a greater tendency towards sleaze as the opportunity rises. Look at the summer holidays in places such as Spain/Corfu etc when groups of 18-30s of both ***es go wild for a couple of weeks. Look at the behaviour of so many sportspeople with stupid amounts of money to spend.

Should politicians be more responsible - Yes.

However, I would rather have politicians who live in society and reflect society and at the moment there is so much that is bad about it. Let’s get real though it is throughout our society not just in 36 politicians, and of course a few Film directors/actors and of course a few cricketers/footballers and of course a few tv personalities etc etc etc etc

[WBA123]

Its a little bit different to having politicians who reflect society. You answered yourself with;

"Should politicians be more responsible - Yes"

Politicians should ideally be beyond reproach. 19 year old kids who go to Ibiza don't make public spending decisions that affect everybody. Neither do sports stars or movie directors. In my eyes they can kind of behave how they please as long as its not criminal, it doesn't affect me and my family. Politicians are separate to those people, they should not be at risk of influence or blackmail because of their actions.

Yes it happens in all walks of society, but politicians need to be above that.

[Yarmbaggie]

Its a little bit different to having politicians who reflect society. You answered yourself with;

"Should politicians be more responsible - Yes"

Politicians should ideally be beyond reproach. 19 year old kids who go to Ibiza don't make public spending decisions that affect everybody. Neither do sports stars or movie directors. In my eyes they can kind of behave how they please as long as its not criminal, it doesn't affect me and my family. Politicians are separate to those people, they should not be at risk of influence or blackmail because of their actions.

Yes it happens in all walks of society, but politicians need to be above that.

I do believe politicians should be more responsible BUT to expect them to be some sort of bland saints, no thank you. They are part of society not ‘saints’. I would rather they were more reflective of society as a whole, with all the negatives that this creates.

Previously so many of them, and others in senior positions have tried to give a persona that they are ‘better’ than the rest of us. The reality is they are not and we are going to continue to be disappointed in my view if we are going to put them on such a high pedestal.

[talkSAFT]

Slightly off-track here, but I've never understood what motivates someone to become a Tory MP.
It's easy to understand that someone who wants to fight - and keep the fight - for a more equal society, should join the Labour movement. But Conservative people in their early 20s (say) spurred on by the thought of making rich people richer?? These people (like Boris Johnson, say) give up the benefits of joining the family business......for a £70k pa salary, which might not last longer than 5 years (till the next Election - then they're out of work).
No matter how much I think of it, I can only think they're motivated solely by Power.