Looks like a lot of people want Bruce to fail...

[PhoneymcRingRing]

Looks like a lot of people want Bruce to fail, I’m not on board with that. I hate Mike Ashley and support the boycott. I can’t wait for the day we’re free from the (unt.

But Rafa fu(king LEFT! Regardless of the circumstances, he’s gone! Stop whining and b1tching about Rafa and directing the shyte at Bruce, he’s alright, he’ll keep us up and that’s all Rafa did at the end of the day.

I hope he shuts a few up, I’ll be tuning in next season to see it.

Howay the lads!

[Curian]

I think that you have put my view perfectly. Well said.

[Geordie1974]

Nothing to do with Rafa leaving why I have no time for Bruce.Cant stand the man and the fact he is willing to be Ashley's mouthpiece and yes man just confirms what I think that he is a snake.
You ask him who United is and like the many times he has always stated its Man United.A supposed Geordie saying that.
I wont be turning in until Ashley has gone.Ashley FC and his puppet Bruce wont be getting my support.

[TANYA_]

Looks like a lot of people want Bruce to fail, I’m not on board with that. I hate Mike Ashley and support the boycott. I can’t wait for the day we’re free from the (unt.

But Rafa fu(king LEFT! Regardless of the circumstances, he’s gone! Stop whining and b1tching about Rafa and directing the shyte at Bruce, he’s alright, he’ll keep us up and that’s all Rafa did at the end of the day.

I hope he shuts a few up, I’ll be tuning in next season to see it.

Howay the lads!

To be honest Phoney, im not that arsed about Rafa leaving anymore.

Its done and dusted now. We wont ever know the truth about demands or budget or control. It certainly wont be all one sided, Rafa is a clever man too.

I wont get behind Steve Bruce simply because he is not good enough for the role! END OF

When the bar is set at a certain level (appointing a world class manager) who has won everything in the game - we get to the stage where we can really kick on and challenge if we get a bit of support from the club.

For Ashley to let him get away and not have him tied down to a cast iron contract shows me that he still has not learned from the basic of mistakes he made with the due dilligence 11 years ago.

Rafa was the second biggest asset the club had, and in fecking that up. Ashley has damaged the clubs biggest asset THE FANS.

Remember at least 7 other managers were approached before Bruce and they all said no. FFS we cant even get an assistant manager to come as the boss.

Vieria, Gerrard, Arteta, Martinez, Ranieri, van Bronckhorst, Fat Sham & Nolan ffs

In true Mike Ashley fashion, he throws money at a player for a record fee to try to appease fans, Ashley's media pals write about Steve's first signing (as if he really has a say)

Steve has a pretty good record in the first 6 months of new jobs, so does Pardew and look how that turned out.

I find it utterly insulting that the fans who loved Rafa now have to settle for Steve Bruce and are still expected to turn out in their thousands and hand over money the same money to watch a different class of football.

Its like driving a Range Rover with all the trimmings for 3 years and trading it in for a Nissan Cherry but still expecting the same performance and quality yet still paying range rover prices for the cherry

Hope the fat kernt falls on a spike

[toonfalifekevbrown]

F uck Steve Bruce and f u CK Ashley and co ,people need to make a stand

[Nufcian]

Kinda don’t understand all the “going from a Rolls Royce to a Ford Fiesta” comments... I do, but face it... when we got Rafa he was WAY out of our league... we were definitely punching when we got him as a manager.

The asset stripping Ashley has performed in terms of playing staff, and the lack of investment in training facilities and credible youth development players that can break through means that as much as it pains me to say it, but Bruce is the level of manager we can and should expect.

Until Ashley is out, and we have an owner that is willing to at least compete for a top of the table spot, we’re not that big a draw.

The stadium and the fans are the only real assets the club have to draw people... we got Rafa (if we’re honest) down to 2 things... the location (near the North West) and the fans (who he knew would appreciate him in a similar fashion to the scousers, and completely opposite to the Chelsea experience)

I’m not a fan of Bruce, he took the mackem job so I have no time for any ‘local lad’ bo!!ocks off him, but I don’t want him to fail... but I do think he’s fooling himself if he thinks Ashley has changed... and after seeing a number of targets missed due to unwillingness to pay wages, and possibly even a last minute sale of Longstaff (leaving us in profit for the window... again), then maybe he’ll wake up and smell the coffee.

[toptoon]

F uck Steve Bruce and f u CK Ashley and co ,people need to make a stand

I agree with this.

It´s not so much the managers involved but the absolute confirmation that the club has one ambition only on the pitch - to avoid relegation. We all know what that means as far as the cups are concerned when your squad is as thin as ours. Rafa wanted the club to be successful on the pitch at a much highrer level than what Bruce is accepting, and he was removed because of that.

Newcastle´s sleeping giant status has been fully resumed.

[toonlegend]

It isn't so much people WANT bruce to fail - its' more they divvent like him anyway - his smarmiest remarks in the last few days compound that feeling - and quite frankly not that many rate him as a manager either so its quite likely that he WILL fail

[Kal]

I don't want him to fail, but I know he will. Only a matter of time.

[ghostrider]

Any genuine Newcastle fan should not want Bruce to fail, no matter what they think of him.
If he's given a chunk of time to get things going and fails miserably to the point of McClaren, then I'd expect him to be sacked and likely booed regularly, if it seems his set up isn't working or trying.

However, he's been in the job 5 minutes. He's ex sunderland manager and he's came in under a massive cloud with certain fans.
Basically it's like he's been thrown into a marathon whilst wearing lead boots.

He comes in against a man (Rafa Benitez) that has somehow managed to coax a certain amount of fans into a belief that he is some kind of genius working god and who was given a ton of money to get the club out of the championship after failing to work a so called miracle in keeping the club up against Sunderland who were struggling much more than we were in terms of quality. And yet, he managed to do little to motivate those players.
Coming straight in to the club and ordering players into training on their day off wasn't exactly a masterstroke in getting players onside....but anyway.

He was given a pot of money to get the club back to the premier league. (tick).....just.
Gets more money to have a crack at the premier league and decides to buy many players he refuses to play and managing to alienate a lot of others.
He then sets up a system that was so soul destroying it made me want to scream for him to be sacked.
He finishes 10th after looking a relegation cert due to his mind numbing football, which was luckily arrested by the addition of a fired up Kenedy, which changed the dynamics and gave us the platform to have a decent finish when relegation looked odds on.

Last season his progress went backwards and he managed to get a season long loan Kenedy and Dubravka in, plus a season long loan of Rondon.
Refuses to play Kenedy or play any real attacking game, which made sense as to why Kenedy got little joy.
A long story short in this instance....we finish 13th only later changing it up once again from the mind numbing football we were tortured with, back to a much batter balanced football with plenty of attacking as well as staying drilled at the back.
It escaped us once again.
An ordinary manager and for me a depressing manager.

And guess what?
Rafa is lauded as some kind of genius and over achieving. It makes me want to scream to think how fans wanted to keep this bloke.

If this was Bruce he would be likely hanging from lamp posts with his face on a dummy. Fans would be screaming at him if he produced that football.
They certainly wouldn't be arguing as to how clever he was at defending, yet handed Rafa that very god like status.


Now I've got that off my chest, all I can say is, Steve Bruce is a geordie. He's our manager. He's a Newcastle United fan, as was his father.
His management record is not as bad as is being made out, even if it isn't high end bracket. How many are?

We just might get treated to much better football as the season goes on. We might have a bonafide number 9 to cheer on, who has all the attributes to be a legend.
It's possible.

Dishing Bruce before he's had a chance is no good to anyone who loves the club.
Concentrating a hatred onto an owner because he won't spend large amounts of net money is making your own Newcastle United experience painful....all because it's easier to follow a hate crowd than it is to simply follow your football team.

Too many people have jumped on a hate wagon and some are so far engrossed into that hate that they won't give it up even if Ashley spent a billion or offered them free season tickets. Such is that frenzied hate.


By all means you do that, whoever you are, but I suspect that many who spout off online and in those streets, want to give Bruce a chance.

I'd hazard a guess that many want to stop bickering about an owner who they want out so badly.

The big boycott crew will not bother to oust him and would rather make excuses up as to him stopping sales so he can stay as owner...as if the buying parties are ready with 350 million as though it was simply confetti, yet Ashley won't take it, apparently..as the saying seems to go.

I think the reason why Ashley says he might stay forever is, he's in a situation where he's up against potential buyers who have long pockets or fanciful never never payment methods.
Basically nobody has the readies and renders Ashley a forever owner.
I'd accept that in this climate and I believe many would when the crash comes for many clubs, which will not be ours under Ashley, in my honest opinion.


And after all that, what really counts for all Newcastle United fans is, you chose the club as your club, whether by family following or by a sense of must in your city of Newcastle...or as an outsider of Newcastle who chose the club, not because they won trophies and not because they were owned/run by whoever...but because Newcastle United became your set up, regardless, through thick of thin.
Those applying conditions to their support are welcome to do that, of course. Nobody has any control over whoever decides to contribute and in what vein.
However, when the season starts and the crowds are in their 10's of thousands, up to close to maximum capacity at times...those fans chose to support the club in the ground.
Anyone paying for TV (and there will be many) chose to support the club through that means.
And anyone buying a mug, badge, shirt or anything official Newcastle United, are supporting the club.

You see many fans go with the flow of conversation on a one to one or as part of a small close knit crowd. When let off the leash to be free to choose, things change.