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    Fans & Finance

    There has been some recent debate about Clubs in the Premier League not needing the attending fans.This bothers me as the Supporters are what the game is all about.Who would want to be in a virtually empty stadium and what happens when you drop down the divisions and the parachute money ends.

    Looking at a realistic average season ticket price of £350 then your income from 1000 is £350,000.From 10,000 it is
    £3.5m (That just may pay SD's annual salary).With current salaries for EPL players that is ridiculous.So what is the solution? Double the price of ST's?In a place like Burnley that would seriously affect the attendance and atmosphere and,in real terms,would make very little difference to the finances.Let the supporters in for nothing? Then what happens when you have to start charging.

    Burnley,the way things are now,HAVE to stay in the EPL.A few years ago financially it did not matter much if you dropped into the Championship,it could mean being in a more competitive league and you could have a good season battling for promotion.2 or 3 years now in the Championship and you are on the slide and have to prepare for a massive change.

    We are in the EPL but with no chance of winning it and only a slim chance of qualifying for Europe so the question I am asking is what do we do? Pile up more money so that we can last a bit longer once we are on the slide or gamble in a ridiculous market for transfer fees and salaries in an effort to stay where we are.Fine margins as someone once said.

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    Spend a bit, save a bit and just keep doing what we do until some super rich oligarch fancies an investment with Burnley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Spend a bit, save a bit and just keep doing what we do until some super rich oligarch fancies an investment with Burnley.
    What.like the Venky's? I don't want the Club owned by some super rich foreigner who just wants some publicity and sees an investment in a Premier League Club as a good way of promoting his business.That is getting away from what we are.

    I want a total change in TV and a Company who want to show Championship games and League 1 & 2 games coming in,perhaps mixed in with one or 2 Premier League games,much like we used to get on MOD.Now I am wondering why I pay for Sky Sport when some PL games are on BT or Amazon.The money is currently unevenly spread,yesterday we were all delighted when Rochdale got a replay,not for the possibility of being in Round 4 which is unlikely but because they get a payday which will probably keep them afloat for a bit longer.Ultimately,at the moment,it is only a matter of time before they and their like follow Bury.Very sad.

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    Agree totally barrie. When you think one month's wages of Raheem Sterling would have saved Bury, something has to be wrong somewhere?

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    As far as I understand it a full house at every home game at Burnley including Season Ticket sales brings in approx £12m per season. That would cover the 'Basic' wages of 7 of our first team not including appearance or goal bonusus. I seem to remember that the running costs for the club from the last season was just over the £63m mark.
    Keeping a pot of money in reserve is so that the club will not go in a downward financial spiral in the event of relegation and be able to pay the wages of the standard of player that can survive in the Champoinship. Exactly what happened in our 2015-2016 season.

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    Here’s the full prize money available in this year’s FA Cup:

    - First Round - winning sides receive £36,000
    - Second Round – winning sides receive £54,000
    - Third Round - winning sides receive £135,000
    - Fourth Round – winning sides receive £180,000
    - Fifth Round – winning sides receive £360,000
    - Quarter Final – winning sides receive £720,000
    - Semi Final – winning sides receive £1.8m; losing sides receive £900,000
    - Final – winner receives £3.6m; runner-up receives £1.8m

    Burnley could also pocket a broadcast fee of around £75,000 if any of their ties are selected to be televised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Spend a bit, save a bit and just keep doing what we do until some super rich oligarch fancies an investment with Burnley.
    Been saying this now nigh on 2 seasons!!!......Would we ever get know about any takeover ? Arab or Anyone? I very much doubt it, as long as Garlic is around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claret_Matelot View Post
    As far as I understand it a full house at every home game at Burnley including Season Ticket sales brings in approx £12m per season. That would cover the 'Basic' wages of 7 of our first team not including appearance or goal bonusus. I seem to remember that the running costs for the club from the last season was just over the £63m mark.
    According to the club's own Financial Statement for the year ending June 2018, the turnover was £139 million, of this £121 million came from TV rights and £5.6 million was match income. So just 4% of the club's income came from gate money. They made a profit of £37 million, so theoretically they could have let everyone in for free all season and still made a profit of more than £31 million. As far as the club's finances in the PL are concerned, the fans are virtually irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    ....When you think one month's wages of Raheem Sterling would have saved Bury, something has to be wrong somewhere?
    with the owners (Dale/Day's) reckless history....I doubt that the wages of the whole City team would've been enough to "keep" Bury safe - BT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Norder View Post
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    with the owners (Dale/Day's) reckless history....I doubt that the wages of the whole City team would've been enough to "keep" Bury safe - BT.

    You know the point I was trying to make Norder. On the Bury issue, how on earth can the EFL allow a football club to change hands for £1.00?

    Due diligence my arse.

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