University Students

[baggieal]

All exams cancelled but nothing about university students.

All Universities should be made to refund at least 50% of tuition fees and students should receive almost full reimbursement for accommodation they can’t live in!!

Absolutely disgusting that these kids who try and further their education through serious debt are being neglected by
Universities who cream off huge sums of money and give f uck all back!! Let’s face it with many subjects you could cram in 3 years worth of studies into 1 year if lectures were every day and frequently.

Absolute greedy f uckers cashing in on kids who have just left school. No wonder mental health in youngsters is huge with huge debts and day light robbery!

[mickd1961]

I agree in large part mate but it’s a real wake up call for those who go to “Uni” as a lifestyle choice and with no clue as to what they want to do when they leave.

I think it’ll make a lot parents think twice before letting their ****ager go in the future.

A friend of mine finished his Masters Degree last year told me that it could all have been done in a third of the time.

He said it was a huge waste of time and money being forced to stay in university for so long.

I think the whole “Uni” thing has become too much of a life “Accessory” and gloating rights for parents since Blair starting pushing it in 97.

At one point we were producing 70 x the number of photographers we needed I believe.

[baggieal]

I agree in large part mate but it’s a real wake up call for those who go to “Uni” as a lifestyle choice and with no clue as to what they want to do when they leave.

I think it’ll make a lot parents think twice before letting their ****ager go in the future.

A friend of mine finished his Masters Degree last year told me that it could all have been done in a third of the time.

He said it was a huge waste of time and money being forced to stay in university for so long.

I think the whole “Uni” thing has become too much of a life “Accessory” and gloating rights for parents since Blair starting pushing it in 97.

At one point we were producing 70 x the number of photographers we needed I believe.

Totally agree Mick with what you say! My main issue is with greedy universities who are ripping students off and they are not getting what they paid for!! Refunds should be immediate as many of these kids are hugely in debt and not getting what they paid for!! Perhaps the Dean on around 300 grand a year should take a huge pay cut with students losing out - we know that will never happen! Universities are now a cash cow and littered with greed!

[Leicesterbaggie]

Tony Blair is to blame for all this. He stated that he wanted 50 % of the population to attend university. Let's look at this. When I took the 11+ only 20

[Leicesterbaggie]

I don't understand what happened to my previous post. Must have pressed button by mistake. I intended to say that 20% of pupils from my area passed the 11+. Apparently the national figures varied from 10% to 35%, depending on the area in which you lived. In my case from that 20% only a small number went on to attend university. That puts into perspective Blair's claim that he wanted 50 % to attend. This is why we now have so many 'Mickey Mouse' subjects on offer. Youngsters of today should be looking at other avenues for their futures and not just university. By the way I wasn't one of those who went on to university!!

[mickd1961]

One of my best friends is 23 and passed his Masters in a Logistics/Planning type of degree.

Wants to work for a local authority like his dad, retire early, good pension etc, etc.

Can’t find work due to the present situation and admits that despite inside help from his dad and dad’s workmates there’s no opportunities due to people massively experienced who are out of work and fighting for those jobs.

He’s always moaning about being short of money as well let me add.

In October I offered him a job in logistics at my internet company, casual to start with to see if it suited him and absolutely no pressure from me, if a council job came up I told him I’d expect him to leave.

He said to me in reply.......

“ Cheers mate but it’s been a really tough year and I haven’t had a holiday so in two weeks time me and the girlfriend are off to Spain for a fortnight........and to be honest it’s not really what I want to do anyway “

🙄🙄🙄🙄😫😫

This is the problem with a lot of the people that go through academia, they don’t live in the real world.

Everything has to be just perfect or they can’t do it.

If he’d been in work with me his chances of getting a job would’ve been much improved as he gained experience rather than just being another unemployed graduate.

His mate ( another young friend of mine ) is a welder........in summer he did his welding job and did 4 hours a day at my place and so worked a 12 hour day.

No university education for him, just university of life like I went through!

[baggieal]

I don't understand what happened to my previous post. Must have pressed button by mistake. I intended to say that 20% of pupils from my area passed the 11+. Apparently the national figures varied from 10% to 35%, depending on the area in which you lived. In my case from that 20% only a small number went on to attend university. That puts into perspective Blair's claim that he wanted 50 % to attend. This is why we now have so many 'Mickey Mouse' subjects on offer. Youngsters of today should be looking at other avenues for their futures and not just university. By the way I wasn't one of those who went on to university!!

University is good for some but not others. You have to go to university as we know for law, medicine, teaching etc and still many large blue chip companies fast track university graduates to be tomorrow’s leaders of their companies - if taken seriously it really works as personally seen with many.

I agree there are many subjects though such as business where you would be better off gaining work experience in that role. Thing is a degree is a degree as you could then fast track let’s say teaching in a year as opposed to the three years if of course in later life - you wanted that career path.

University though is costly but many turn to it to boost their CV’S as it’s bloody hard to find a good job unless you want to work in a shop/bar etc. That’s the reality,

[kettering_baggie]

Universities, backed by government pressure, should be prioritising those courses where there is a national need and jobs to go to, medicine and engineering are two that come to mind. I read a few months ago that there was a shortage of places at university medical schools; well, there shouldn’t be, we need doctors! The article also highlighted that some of school leavers wanting to go into medicine were being denied in order to give priority to those with lower A level grades from different backgrounds and ethnicities. Fine to train more people from diverse backgrounds but surely not at the expense of the best qualified? More places required in those courses, is the answer.

[Prando]

I’m not sure whether I would have been clever enough to pass for a university. I left Grammar school after 5th form to start to earn. In the mid sixties only a few went to Uni., but many, myself included continued education via night school and correspondence courses.
I’m not sure my Dad could have afforded it ?

[mickd1961]

I’m not sure whether I would have been clever enough to pass for a university. I left Grammar school after 5th form to start to earn. In the mid sixties only a few went to Uni., but many, myself included continued education via night school and correspondence courses.
I’m not sure my Dad could have afforded it ?

I don’t know if you heard of it from your time up in Harrogate Paul but there’s a top notch school called Ashville College.

My dad was one of the first six lads ever to gain a scholarship to go there.

Fees were around £1700 a year in the late 1940’s I believe so it was only the wealthy elite who had previously been able to go there.

My dad was less impressed when he realised they didn’t play football ( he was already a County player at that time ) and there were no girls.

Such was his natural sporting ability he took up rugby at the school and became a county player at that whilst still having Huddersfield Town wanting to sign him due to his Sunday football exploits.

All of this said, he came out with only two O levels due to being too devoted to sport and due to being distracted by girls from the local secondary school 😆

Not high on academic grades but the wisest person I’ve ever known.

University doesn’t teach common-sense and indeed it’s often the opposite.