FAO BT. (Trigger Warning...Politics)

[sinkov]

Good morning mon ami, you keep having your little rants about Boris and the Tories, far-right Fascists according to you. I keep pointing out that this is a Conservative Party in name only, they're not recognisable as Tories to me, and St Margaret, god rest her soul, will be turning in her grave at what has become of them. Dr James Alexander puts it far more succinctly and eloquently than I ever could.

"Johnson has presided over the establishment of an entirely technocratic politics of problem-and-solution which is, alas, not a politics at all, but the substitution of technique for politics. In this situation, the Government appears to be as committed as the opposition is to a unified politics of Universal Lockdown and Universal Vaccination and Universal Carbon Elimination in which no one is defending any aspect of the old order (including the church or universities) or even liberalism itself. The Conservatives have no longer got anything to defend. They have capitulated to their enemies and done it with a grotesque hyper-Disraelian-Bismarckian-Maoist-Malthusian flourish by way of forcing us to take the knee, take the mask and take the jab. They are not Tory, not liberal, certainly not even ‘austere’. They have found a magic money tree. They are presumably waiting for the seas to turn into lemonade. They are locking us into a magnificently communist-corporate hybrid order which will make the public-private partnerships of Blair and Brown look extremely pallid. If this continues then the only conservative thing about the Conservatives will be their inclination to hold on to their name."

[wanderlust]

You may have guessed by now I'm no Toerag, but even I can see the split in the party from a mile away.
Even diehard right wing rags like The Conservative Woman have had the occasional pop at Boris even though he is clearly little more than a puppet for the billionaire backers who pull his strings.
In a way it reflects the Labour party (equally divided) struggle to deal with Blairism a few years back - on the one hand populism gets you elected to power but unfortunately you have to sell out your principles to do it.

And Boris would sell off his daughters to the nearest p*a*e*d*o to be popular.

[Swissclaret]

Although I haven’t lived in England for many years, I do follow what is happening there. My family, albeit working class, always voted Tory. Everything changes, develops, improves and worsens. Political parties do. What I have seen is a move away from traditional values and strong government to wish - washy, middle of the road, populist policies that are designed, not for the good of the people, but for the holding onto power and privilege for its own sake. When I was at St Theodore’s back in the 1960’s George Orwell was viewed as a dystopian author of books and essays. However, we were encouraged to read Animal Farm and 1984 in the belief that he was describing the communist states. Britain is now living those two books and with mainly Conservative Governments, interspersed with the Blair/ Brown years that were not the Labour of Harold Wilson or Sunny Jim.

[sinkov]

Even diehard right wing rags like The Conservative Woman have had the occasional pop at Boris

An occasional pop ? You don't read it very often do you Lusty, Boris is more despised on those pages than even by the Lefty activists masquerading as journalists at the Grauniad.

[ClaretinBudapest]

An occasional pop ? You don't read it very often do you Lusty, Boris is more despised on those pages than even by the Lefty activists masquerading as journalists at the Grauniad.

Tory/Labour two cheeks of the same bum as George Galloway eloquently put it.Regarding matters of substance, there is very little to choose between the two except the window dressing ever since New Labour except for the Jeremy Corbyn brigade who were unelectable.Then again why would there be any difference when the same people have them in their pockets.

[Deadlydave]

We have a UNIPARTY running the show. The deep state is ALWAYS in power, ALWAYS. No different here than in America. Look at the clown they put in the White House. These are the same people that told Maggie their job was to "oversee the orderly decline of England". Has anything changed apart from matters are worse now than ever, even our freedom is being taken away to satisfy the dark Progressive forces. When the BMA puts in its own journal "People have Babies", you cannot identify the unique and beautiful role of women, you know that decadence is such that a civilisation fall is on the cards.

[Balanbam00]

''that a civilisation fall is on the cards''.......For a new society to come about the old must fall.

But if you cling to the now outdated ideas of Labour ,Torries , Lib Dems, etc etc etc What will change?

You must know in their ideas, in all parties, there is a observable lack of motivation and effort on the part of the intelligent and educated people at present to properly utilise their acquired knowledge for the society. This is the psychology of an apathetic and elitist class who do not like to move from their privileged position to work for the welfare of the common people.

[outwoodclaret]

You may have guessed by now I'm no Toerag.

Yes we would probably have come to that conclusion eventually Lusty but we don’t like to rush into judgement on people we hardly even know.

[wanderlust]

An occasional pop ? You don't read it very often do you Lusty, Boris is more despised on those pages than even by the Lefty activists masquerading as journalists at the Grauniad.

TBH I never had you down as a Conservative Woman reader

[wanderlust]

Yes we would probably have come to that conclusion eventually Lusty but we don’t like to rush into judgement on people we hardly even know.

TBH I'd probably be a LibDem in my old age but that's another party that's disappeared up it's own arse. I'm so disillusioned with politics and politicians I might form my own party and have a fifty fifty chance of getting a majority in our house.