McPake's away.....

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.......record must be one of the worst of any manager in the Scottish Premiership in many years.

[islaydarkblue]

.......record must be one of the worst of any manager in the Scottish Premiership in many years.

I agree and it is unlikely to ever happen at another Scottish Premiership Club whose board of directors would have sacked their manager long ago.
As far as I am aware Dundee Football Club only have about three board of directors meetings per year one of which is to sign off the Annual Accounts as correct before submitting them to Companies House.
I assume that Nelms has a direct line to his boss Tim Keyes telling him what is going on behind the scenes at Dens Park.

[deecom]

.......record must be one of the worst of any manager in the Scottish Premiership in many years.

Mcpake was a defender, but still can't sort out the defence, that's four own goals in three games.
Our goals against column is terrible, and makes it harder to avoid relegation.
Also Sweeny misses the next game, and think only Cory Panter is available for centre half.

[Returnofrros]

.......record must be one of the worst of any manager in the Scottish Premiership in many years.

Since he took over it's only last season's late run that has been anywhere near good enough.

2 and a half year and progress has been minimal but bearing in mind how ****e we were when he took over it's not a lot to crow about.

You can't really argue that that's not a decent amount of time This will be his 6th transfer window if he gets there and our style of play, our organisation and ability to eek out points hasn't really improved.

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Since he took over it's only last season's late run that has been anywhere near good enough.

2 and a half year and progress has been minimal but bearing in mind how ****e we were when he took over it's not a lot to crow about.

You can't really argue that that's not a decent amount of time This will be his 6th transfer window if he gets there and our style of play, our organisation and ability to eek out points hasn't really improved.

You can only improve on something you actually have. Under McPake we've never had an effective and set style of play, been organised or able to eek out points.

[islaydarkblue]

Since he took over it's only last season's late run that has been anywhere near good enough.

2 and a half year and progress has been minimal but bearing in mind how ****e we were when he took over it's not a lot to crow about.

You can't really argue that that's not a decent amount of time This will be his 6th transfer window if he gets there and our style of play, our organisation and ability to eek out points hasn't really improved.

I think that Nelms is sticking with McPake because of the Youth Football connection between the pair of them and Nelms does not
want to admit that he made a mistake appointing a rookie manager.

[BCram]

We have not had a consistent level of performance. Somehow we have been this way for more than just McPake's tenure as manager. There is something wrong and I think it is difficult to say exactly what it is. We have had different owners, numerous managers and yet still we have no clear direction.

I thought that McPake was going break the mould but it is looking less likely after the Hibs game.

[Returnofrros]

We have not had a consistent level of performance. Somehow we have been this way for more than just McPake's tenure as manager. There is something wrong and I think it is difficult to say exactly what it is. We have had different owners, numerous managers and yet still we have no clear direction.

I thought that McPake was going break the mould but it is looking less likely after the Hibs game.

I think of it as a losers mentality, Knox, Scott and for a spell under Hartley are the only managers in my lifetime who have been able to shake it off for a time.......also Deefiant team in a lower league.

I will say though although there is indifference within the Dens boardroom I feel there's a bit of a spark back among the fans, don't know where it's come from but there's something there again.

[BCram]

I think of it as a losers mentality, Knox, Scott and for a spell under Hartley are the only managers in my lifetime who have been able to shake it off for a time.......also Deefiant team in a lower league.

I will say though although there is indifference within the Dens boardroom I feel there's a bit of a spark back among the fans, don't know where it's come from but there's something there again.

I think you have got it right with your idea of a loser's
mentality. We seem to have stumbled along for quite some time. It is really disappointing that the consistency of the financial support from the Americans has not been able to fix this issue.

The recent Ross County game and the Hibs game have been very disappointing. We are still in the mix and it is obvious that the fans are still giving McPake and his team great backing. I don't think the consistent criticism of McPake is getting much traction.
I don't know why he is still in post. These last two games seemed to be a return to the weak team tactics and "loser mentality". I am not sure that new players will help to change that.
How can the team that beat Aberdeen and St Johnston lose to the then bottom club Ross County, and fail to take a real dig at a weak Hibs team whose players were terrified of missing their League Cup final?

[Returnofrros]

I think you have got it right with your idea of a loser's
mentality. We seem to have stumbled along for quite some time. It is really disappointing that the consistency of the financial support from the Americans has not been able to fix this issue.

The recent Ross County game and the Hibs game have been very disappointing. We are still in the mix and it is obvious that the fans are still giving McPake and his team great backing. I don't think the consistent criticism of McPake is getting much traction.
I don't know why he is still in post. These last two games seemed to be a return to the weak team tactics and "loser mentality". I am not sure that new players will help to change that.
How can the team that beat Aberdeen and St Johnston lose to the then bottom club Ross County, and fail to take a real dig at a weak Hibs team whose players were terrified of missing their League Cup final?

I was hoping Adam (in particular) would not accept the level of drop off that seems to infect Dens.

I can take a defeat but there are ways to lose.

County was calamatous but it can happen but hibs away 1st half was so tepid and timid and it was a winnable game.

We can't seem to maintain an acceptable standard of performance for any length of time and continually scraping around for big results to get us out the ****.

I don't like to use the dabs as an example but I don't think they have played that much better than us this season but a bit better level of consistency and they have been rewarded with a good points total.

They have a rookie, we have someone in his 3rd year....Mwell are another club who seem capable of getting consistent results and st j have been very reliable for a decade or so.

I don't think getting a consistent level of performance out of our club is impossible with the right man in charge.

Mcpake is about to do a mini overhaul on the squad again, something he said he wouldn't do again.