Should he stay...or should he go now?

[ramAnag]

While such threads remain acceptable...after yesterday’s fiasco in the House of Commons have we now reached the stage where Johnson finally recognises that he is on borrowed time and has to go?
A simple Stay or Go will suffice.

Obviously I think ‘Go’...as far and as quickly as possible, but won’t elaborate further at this point.

Sincerely hope any who suggest ‘Stay’ don’t just do so on the basis that the two apparent front runners to take over are Raab and Truss in which case...a further word of warning (with apologies to the Clash) might be...‘If he goes there will be trouble. And if he stays it will be double.’

[Ramshank72]

He's just missed a chance at Everton, don't think he'll be pleased with losing Plange but I guess he knew it was coming. Expect him to stick around for now

[Geoff Parkstone]

A Classic question, but one to which I can offer no opinion

[MadAmster]

Should he go? Yes

Will he stay? Yes

[MadAmster]

Apparently Ms Gray looked into 16 parties/events and 12 of those are now the subject of police investigation.

Surely, he can't survive, can he? Yet teflon Boz may well do just that.....

[ramAnag]

Pourquoi GP?

I suspect not MA. He’s doing his best to give a Churchill impression over the Ukraine but I doubt it’ll work. Could be dangerous though.
It wouldn’t be the first instance of an unpopular PM indulging in sabre rattling to try and change public perception.

I believe there’s more to come. Some are ‘keeping their powder dry’ and Mrs. May seemed to make a good point yesterday.
Is someone who’s best defence is ‘nobody told me it was against the rules’ or ‘no one said it was a party’ really the best we’ve got to negotiate with Putin?

[Geoff Parkstone]

Pourquoi GP?

I suspect not MA. He’s doing his best to give a Churchill impression over the Ukraine but I doubt it’ll work. Could be dangerous though.
It wouldn’t be the first instance of an unpopular PM indulging in sabre rattling to try and change public perception.

I believe there’s more to come. Some are ‘keeping their powder dry’ and Mrs. May seemed to make a good point yesterday.
Is someone who’s best defence is ‘nobody told me it was against the rules’ or ‘no one said it was a party’ really the best we’ve got to negotiate with Putin?

OK, just for you, and for diametrically opposite reasons I suspect. He should go now as (a) his job is done - ie Brexit and hopefully covid and (b) before he does any more damage to his party. If he is involved in more scandal even a half wit like Starmer (albeit best of a bad bunch) has a chance to win the next election.

Im surprised the "longer term rA" doesnt want him to limp on and cause further damage to his party in the same way Corbyn did to Labour

Is it alright to mention other parties or is this a one eyed topic again - perhaps the reason I first decided to leave this one alone

[ramAnag]

OK, just for you, and for diametrically opposite reasons I suspect. He should go now as (a) his job is done - ie Brexit and hopefully covid and (b) before he does any more damage to his party. If he is involved in more scandal even a half wit like Starmer (albeit best of a bad bunch) has a chance to win the next election.

Im surprised the "longer term rA" doesnt want him to limp on and cause further damage to his party in the same way Corbyn did to Labour

Is it alright to mention other parties or is this a one eyed topic again - perhaps the reason I first decided to leave this one alone

‘One eyed topic’. How so?
You know I had a low opinion of Corbyn, but because he was an incompetent leader, not a dishonest one.

This though is all about Johnson and the Tories. No hiding from that.
Politically I see the sense of him ‘limping on’.
Morally...imo we shouldn’t have to put up with a proven liar - and probably a corrupt liar at that - as leader of our country.
Practically...how can we empower someone who breaks or fails to recognise his own rules and can’t recognise a ‘party’ to represent us abroad and solve the cost of living crisis?

[Trickytreesreds]

He won't go until the summer.

1. They will let it die down, with him getting all the flak
2. They will give him the chance to "honourably"(SAID LOOSELY) stand down/ or a coup will oust him like Thatcher
3. The new front runner, will have a cleaner run, not having to clear away his troubles.

A long way till the next election and when you think about it, all poltical parties try to look more generous before election times. So a newcomer, has a safer run

My opinion anyway

[ramAnag]

If Thursday’s by-Election was actually being properly contested and the Tories did badly again in another safe seat then I think he’d be gone.
Only if there’s a UKIP win or a spectacularly ‘stay away’ low turnout is it likely to have an impact...imo.