A team we do not know

[lancaster100]

I do appreciate that I am being naive and I do appreciate that every player wants to play at the highest level possible. However, lets have it right collectively the players from last season were simply not good enough to stay in the Premier so what makes them all think they are now good enough to jump ship and seek new pastures in the Premiership with a believe that they are now good enough to play in that level of football. What it does demonstrate to me is the players loyalty to Burnley FC the club that gave them their chance in the first place only for them to kick the club in the stomach at the first time adversity rears itds head. This message if aimed at everyone of those players who have now left and to those seeking new pastures. For those that stay and try to get us back I thank you and to those new players coming to our club.

Dont get me wrong I will be there this season cheering on our new manager and team which feels exciting but at the same time there will be very few who were there in our relegation result and that also has a very strange feel for me. We will have little to compare current players with previous incumbants. We will be cheering for a team we simply do not know!!

I do accept that there will be those who do not agree with anything I am saying so that is your perogative. Anybody any thoughts?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I do appreciate that I am being naive and I do appreciate that every player wants to play at the highest level possible. However, lets have it right collectively the players from last season were simply not good enough to stay in the Premier so what makes them all think they are now good enough to jump ship and seek new pastures in the Premiership with a believe that they are now good enough to play in that level of football. What it does demonstrate to me is the players loyalty to Burnley FC the club that gave them their chance in the first place only for them to kick the club in the stomach at the first time adversity rears itds head. This message if aimed at everyone of those players who have now left and to those seeking new pastures. For those that stay and try to get us back I thank you and to those new players coming to our club.

Dont get me wrong I will be there this season cheering on our new manager and team which feels exciting but at the same time there will be very few who were there in our relegation result and that also has a very strange feel for me. We will have little to compare current players with previous incumbants. We will be cheering for a team we simply do not know!!

I do accept that there will be those who do not agree with anything I am saying so that is your perogative. Anybody any thoughts?

I agree with you 100% lancaster100. A lot of our team from last season were suffering from "Billy Big Bollox Syndrome", I will exclude James Tarkowski, Nick Pope and Maxwell Cornet from that list, but quite frankly some of them like Wood, Weghorst and McNeil were not fit to wear our shirt.

It seems like Vinny wants a fresh start, but he's not daft, and I'm certain he will want to keep the likes of Roberts, Brownhill and Taylor.

I think the writing is on the wall for Kevin Long.

[sinkov]

It doesn't matter whether any of our players think they're good enough for the PL, they can think what they like, unless a PL club thinks they're good enough and is prepared to pay good money for them, they won't be going anywhere, at least not back into the Premier league.

There may well be some of our players happy to stay, Cornet seems to have been one, doesn't matter, if we get a decent offer, we'll sell them, whether they want to stay and play for us or not.

Our club will sell any player it can make a profit on, they need be under no illusions, they are all in the shop window, in which case any and all of our players with half a brain, or a half decent agent, will look for the best deal for themselves, whether that's at Burnley or elsewhere.

This is not Disneyland or Fantasy Football, it's a hard-nosed, cut throat business, dog eat dog. I have no complaints about any of our players, whether they stay or go. It's football, it is what it is.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

It doesn't matter whether any of our players think they're good enough for the PL, they can think what they like, unless a PL club thinks they're good enough and is prepared to pay good money for them, they won't be going anywhere, at least not back into the Premier league.

There may well be some of our players happy to stay, Cornet seems to have been one, doesn't matter, if we get a decent offer, we'll sell them, whether they want to stay and play for us or not.

Our club will sell any player it can make a profit on, they need be under no illusions, they are all in the shop window, in which case any and all of our players with half a brain, or a half decent agent, will look for the best deal for themselves, whether that's at Burnley or elsewhere.

This is not Disneyland or Fantasy Football, it's a hard-nosed, cut throat business, dog eat dog. I have no complaints about any of our players, whether they stay or go. It's football, it is what it is.

It's a tough call having to cut your cloth to your circumstances, Alan Pace knows it and is obviously doing his best to address the financial consequences of being relegated.

I'm presently reminded that football and loyalty are not congruent bedfellows, which ever direction it's coming from; a player or the club's Chairman.

[sinkov]

Don't you sometimes cringe when a player kisses the badge, everyone knows it's all bollox, but still they do it, and the more gullible fans lap it up. Take the knee and then go and play football in Qatar. Feck off, how does that work ? It's all one massive money grubbing pantomime, but it's fun when we're winning. Just don't expect morality or loyalty, some of these guys could show Boris a trick or two.

[lancaster100]

Don't you sometimes cringe when a player kisses the badge, everyone knows it's all bollox, but still they do it, and the more gullible fans lap it up. Take the knee and then go and play football in Qatar. Feck off, how does that work ? It's all one massive money grubbing pantomime, but it's fun when we're winning. Just don't expect morality or loyalty, some of these guys could show Boris a trick or two.

Sinkov you are dead right with both your posts.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Sinkov you are dead right with both your posts.

And then they f*ck off to China or the good old USA for one last pay day.

[army88]

I do appreciate that I am being naive and I do appreciate that every player wants to play at the highest level possible. However, lets have it right collectively the players from last season were simply not good enough to stay in the Premier so what makes them all think they are now good enough to jump ship and seek new pastures in the Premiership with a believe that they are now good enough to play in that level of football. What it does demonstrate to me is the players loyalty to Burnley FC the club that gave them their chance in the first place only for them to kick the club in the stomach at the first time adversity rears itds head. This message if aimed at everyone of those players who have now left and to those seeking new pastures. For those that stay and try to get us back I thank you and to those new players coming to our club.

Dont get me wrong I will be there this season cheering on our new manager and team which feels exciting but at the same time there will be very few who were there in our relegation result and that also has a very strange feel for me. We will have little to compare current players with previous incumbants. We will be cheering for a team we simply do not know!!

I do accept that there will be those who do not agree with anything I am saying so that is your perogative. Anybody any thoughts?

Difficult subject this as regardless of our financial situation this season the vultures would have circled for shall we say our better players hoping to pick up bargains , worse for us this time around because the the crap press who sold us down the river telling every club in the land that we’d be bust by August as we couldn’t repay loans and what we owed was going to sink us unless we sold prize assets NOW.

The loyalty side of things imo doesn’t exist in football anymore and you can’t really blame the players I mean if you actually placed yourself in their positions in your own job where someone offers you a raise from let’s say £50k a year to 500k a year you’d take the money same for them, and of course in reverse if your on £45k a week and relegation puts you down to 23k a week you’d listen to offers at 45k a week or more from anywhere.

I’m a little that way with Mee who was a great servant for us but I thought at 32 would have stayed and helped the younger brigade coming through , but sadly he falls into the category you mention where he thinks he’s better ( not sure he has a club yet anyway ).

So the coming and goings are strange and it will have a different feel to start with I think but a few weeks in we’ll just be behind the lads and they’ll become household names with us.

My real excitement is in how we play and also if the new manager has the knowledge in his locker to alter games with tactical changes etc or if he’ll just bat on regardless,

What I will say is looking how our training pitches are set out into small zones - squares it looks very Guardiola esq in set up ( done some work down there in the last week ), so
I’m looking forward to see how we play - the bonus is win lose or draw I don’t think the ride will be boring.

I hope we get behind Vincent and stay behind him as this season might be a gelling one .

[kritichris]

Chris Wood, Owen Coyle, seems the same to me, just following the money, loyalty doesn't come into it, just self interest.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Chris Wood, Owen Coyle, seems the same to me, just following the money, loyalty doesn't come into it, just self interest.

I think we need to acknowledge that a football fan is for life, players are there to earn a living and squeeze the most they can from a relatively short career.

It's the lure of the lucre and it's obvious now more than ever "player loyalty" is a total misnomer.

I'm looking forward to our new brigade doing the business while they are here.