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Thread: Have We Lost Our Title

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    Have We Lost Our Title

    I noticed we haven't got the sign back up on the J.S stand. " Worlds oldest professional football league club" aparantly we lost it when we were relegated. There is a sign on the end of the Pavis stand " World's Oldest Professional Football club". So perhaps we have lost the title

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    Of course we haven't 'lost" the title, it's just that most people have decided that the"world's oldest professional club" sounds better and makes more sense (and the original sign didn't have the word "professional" in it btw).

    Crystal Palace have tried recently to claim they are the oldest but everyone knows that's just bullsh*t

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    We are currently the oldest and newest football League club for this season!

    But we haven't lost the title, it just never made any sense of being the "world's oldest football League club" bearing in mind only clubs from England and a couple from Wales can join. Much better to be the world's oldest professional football club, makes way more sense as well.

    As for the crystal palace claims, even their own fans are embarrassed and the FA have told them to do one, we have also apparently submitted a trademark application for "World's oldest Professional football club"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Balti Pie View Post

    As for the crystal palace claims, even their own fans are embarrassed and the FA have told them to do one, we have also apparently submitted a trademark application for "World's oldest Professional football club"
    If we have technically lost it due to not being successive seasons in the football league then Crystal Palace or even Florest (as they like to claim they are the oldest league club now) can't either as they weren't part of the first 12 teams that started the very first league campaign.

    It would surely go to one of the 9 below having to omit us, Accrington and stoke I believe due to going out of the league or changing clubs for the ordinal 12.

    Preston North End
    Aston Villa
    Wolverhampton Wanderers
    Blackburn Rovers
    Bolton Wanderers
    West Bromwich Albion
    Accrington
    Everton
    Burnley
    Derby County
    Notts County
    Stoke

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    Quote Originally Posted by tied_up_in_notts View Post
    Of course we haven't 'lost" the title, it's just that most people have decided that the"world's oldest professional club" sounds better and makes more sense (and the original sign didn't have the word "professional" in it btw).
    Having said that, if Sheffield FC become professional but not part of the league, would we revert back to "Worlds oldest league club"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caj85 View Post
    If we have technically lost it due to not being successive seasons in the football league then Crystal Palace or even Florest (as they like to claim they are the oldest league club now) can't either as they weren't part of the first 12 teams that started the very first league campaign.

    It would surely go to one of the 9 below having to omit us, Accrington and stoke I believe due to going out of the league or changing clubs for the ordinal 12.

    Preston North End
    Aston Villa
    Wolverhampton Wanderers
    Blackburn Rovers
    Bolton Wanderers
    West Bromwich Albion
    Accrington
    Everton
    Burnley
    Derby County
    Notts County
    Stoke
    If being relegated into the NL no longer counts as no longer being a FL club, how are PL clubs considered FL still?
    Preston are the only team that have never left the FL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    If being relegated into the NL no longer counts as no longer being a FL club, how are PL clubs considered FL still?
    Preston are the only team that have never left the FL.
    Good point!

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    The palace claim is a joke.

    There was nearly 30 years between one folding and the other starting.

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    We're still the oldest football league club as we were formed in 1862. You can't loose that status regardless of dropping out the league and returning back to it. We're not the newest football league club either as that would be a plain stupid claim

    Think I prefer the worlds oldest professional football club anyway.

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    Were we 'professional' when we were formed or did that not happen until we became a founder member of the FL? Have Sheffield FC ever been 'professional'? If they did become 'professional' wouldn't we still be the oldest 'professional' football club due to being 'professional' before anyone else? It's all starting to get a bit complicated!

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