Leeds United - v - Derby County ***Matchday Thread***

[BelfastAndy]

Leeds United v Derby County
Saturday 7th December@12:30| Elland Road

Derby are the visitors to Elland Road on Saturday lunchtime, with expectant Leeds fans predicting a return to winning ways.

There's no love lost between the two sides over the years, enflamed further by 'Spygate' and the 18/19 Championship Play-off Semi Final between the two sides. This remains Derby's only win over Leeds in the last seven games when they have met.

With just one win in their last six, the Rams face the daunting task of taking on a Leeds side who have only lost once at home all season (in the league). Along with the Blades, Farke's side top the Championship form guide, winning all six of their last games at Elland Road.

Paul Warne's chances of an upset are lessoned by the fact that key player Ebou Adams is ruled out through suspension, after picking up his fifth booking of the season against Sheffield Wednesday last weekend. On-loan Crystal Palace midfielder David Ozoh (hamstring/quad muscle issue) and defender Ryan Nyambe (posterior knee ligament) also miss out.

Leeds have no new injury concerns. Max Wober and Largie Ramazani are being eased back to action gradually whilst Manor Solomon is pushing for a return to the starting line-up after being dropped during the 1-0 loss at Ewood Park last weekend.

Ilea Gruev and Ethan Ampadu are long term casualties; with Joe Rothwell and AO Tanaka expecting to deputise. Daniel Farke continuous to favour Joe Piroe over Mateo Joseph, with the young Spaniard starting on the bench in nine out of ten of his previous games.

Joe Rodon and Wilfred Gnonto are walking suspension tight-ropes. Both have four bookings each; but, if they can avoid being carded on Saturday, the immediate threat of a ban is lifted with the threshold raised to ten bookings before game-week 37.

MOT.

(Credit: MOTforum.com)

[whitestomper45]

Bryan out with hamstring, Schmidt almost fully recovered from hernia, Firpo has knock doubtful. Ampadu continues to improve

[Monaco_Totty]

This perception of injury risk & prevention among football players is often cited via the public incorrectly, usually prior Cup games.

Players at this level are given monthly systematic reviews on everything they do from waking up, all movements made, initial nutrition & so on covering everything to bedtime & bedtime activities a few have told me. 😳

So it is essential for players to acknowledge all perceived injury risk factors, as well as a better understanding of how clubs coaching & medical departments perceptions match with an individual players perceptions & adjust those perceptions of all above parties to different levels of action if required into keeping a player fit.

A players ongoing monthly fitness details via a 'systematic-review' is supposed to explore a players perceptions of injury risk & prevention. Most football players agree that their risk of injury is high & that prevention strategies are important. But still, many do not act on all given help of strategies available to keeping fit.

Crazy, as its crucial to acknowledge all perceived injury risk factors, namely any limb lesser muscle strength. Any lack of honest individual physical fitness level reporting only results in poor levels of performance, medical analysis reports state.

Honest feedback is important for the monitoring of fatigue too, right down to training & condition of training ground surfaces into being able to produce consistent optimum performance thats expected & required.
Feedback is so important for injury prevention factors, such as in any team & individual warm-ups, positional workload monitoring with all strength conditioning plans being followed. Combining all this with any many mental wellness factoring analysis too.

Even Bamford admitted recently he often played for us when not fully fit which he knew was effecting him physically & mentally, which is crazy & wrong, imo !
So kinda comes back to my comments on another match thread about importance of players ability levels being reached when fully fit or indeed are they being met when playing with managed injury issues - which we as a club are guilty of past & present, as individual performance results do not lie in that respect in hindsight when putting ones body onto the line in matches.

So yeah, injury risk, prevention & recovery does have merit in all its concepts which only idiots would ignore, particularly any pro athlete who may say he is physically & mentally fit to play.
Problem is squad quality strength in suitable replacements when needed being fully primed & ready - ready as in match ready scenarios.

Not easy to slot in & perform hence the introduction of tactics comfortable for all scenario being one of many possible answers to rely on.

Just saying

[ozleeds]

This perception of injury risk & prevention among football players is often cited via the public incorrectly, usually prior Cup games.

Players at this level are given monthly systematic reviews on everything they do from waking up, all movements made, initial nutrition & so on covering everything to bedtime & bedtime activities a few have told me. ��

So it is essential for players to acknowledge all perceived injury risk factors, as well as a better understanding of how clubs coaching & medical departments perceptions match with an individual players perceptions & adjust those perceptions of all above parties to different levels of action if required into keeping a player fit.

A players ongoing monthly fitness details via a 'systematic-review' is supposed to explore a players perceptions of injury risk & prevention. Most football players agree that their risk of injury is high & that prevention strategies are important. But still, many do not act on all given help of strategies available to keeping fit.

Crazy, as its crucial to acknowledge all perceived injury risk factors, namely any limb lesser muscle strength. Any lack of honest individual physical fitness level reporting only results in poor levels of performance, medical analysis reports state.

Honest feedback is important for the monitoring of fatigue too, right down to training & condition of training ground surfaces into being able to produce consistent optimum performance thats expected & required.
Feedback is so important for injury prevention factors, such as in any team & individual warm-ups, positional workload monitoring with all strength conditioning plans being followed. Combining all this with any many mental wellness factoring analysis too.

Even Bamford admitted recently he often played for us when not fully fit which he knew was effecting him physically & mentally, which is crazy & wrong, imo !
So kinda comes back to my comments on another match thread about importance of players ability levels being reached when fully fit or indeed are they being met when playing with managed injury issues - which we as a club are guilty of past & present, as individual performance results do not lie in that respect in hindsight when putting ones body onto the line in matches.

So yeah, injury risk, prevention & recovery does have merit in all its concepts which only idiots would ignore, particularly any pro athlete who may say he is physically & mentally fit to play.
Problem is squad quality strength in suitable replacements when needed being fully primed & ready - ready as in match ready scenarios.

Not easy to slot in & perform hence the introduction of tactics comfortable for all scenario being one of many possible answers to rely on.

Just saying

So if i player says before the game i don't feel right i have back pains you play him anyway right or if he nearly breaks a leg you spray the magic fluid and all good again! We have had situations here where dr's keep giving the all clear and send them out this is one result the guy had and was send back.
MELBOURNE midfielder Christian Petracca is set for a stint on the sidelines after suffering four broken ribs and a lacerated spleen during yesterday's game against Collingwood at the MCG.

Petracca suffered the injury in a marking contest at the end of the first quarter. He returned to the field after an initial medical assessment deemed his pain was likely due to a rib injury.

After returning to play, Petracca’s pain increased at half-time and despite assessing relatively well, he was sent to hospital for further investigation as a precaution.

Scans taken at hospital revealed the extent of Petracca’s injury, with the midfielder sustaining broken ribs, a lacerated spleen and a small puncture within his lung. He underwent a procedure to stop the bleeding last night and remains in hospital for observation and recovery.

A return to play timeline will be established in the coming week as Petracca recovers, and further medical assessment is undertaken.

Melbourne’s General Manager of AFL Performance Alan Richardson said Petracca’s health was the club’s number one priority.

"Obviously, Christian’s health is the number one priority for us at the moment. The next few weeks will be crucial, and we'll be monitoring his progress closely to make sure he heals properly and fully. As his recovery progresses, we will look towards a return to play timeline,” Richardson said.

“He's obviously an extremely important player for the team, but his health and recovery are our top priorities right now."
His health is number one priority they said lol not the win at all costs?
I can understand something happening in play but someone tells you there back is playing up you simply don't play them as was the case with Rodon.

[whitestomper45]

From my experience, the more successful and chance of winning something the less injuries/players used. Nobody wants to be dropped from a winning team.
At the other end, a player off form in a struggling team, then niggles start to feel more painful.

[Monaco_Totty]

From my experience, the more successful and chance of winning something the less injuries/players used. Nobody wants to be dropped from a winning team.
At the other end, a player off form in a struggling team, then niggles start to feel more painful.

Fair point in that the brain releases adrenaline in response to a threatening or exciting situation, which can cause a feeling of being pumped up & override pain via an adrenaline rush but it will not stop further damage to a carried injury.

The FA & PFA do have new agreements now for players relating to long-term injuries & illnesses, to be fair.

Injured players receive their basic wage for the first 18 months of an injury & then half their wage for the rest of the injury.
Prior they only received their basic wage for 6 months only.
Clubs can serve notice to terminate a players contract if they have been incapacitated for 18 months in a 20-month period, with the notice period being 12 months currently.

Obviously, my perspective was more from the mental aspect point of view as football players are unlikely to play well if they are not mentally fit as mental toughness is important, let alone carrying an injury which mentally affects performance too.

All players consider mental toughness to be a fundamental mental quality for handling challenging situations & any mental health problem(s) can impact performance.
In fact mental health problems can & do impact physical fitness & concentration & it can also make it difficult for players to work cohesively within their team - of which Leeds know to well via Charlie Cresswell (Toulouse) & Cody Drameh (Hull City) recently.

[Billyni]

From my experience, the more successful and chance of winning something the less injuries/players used. Nobody wants to be dropped from a winning team.
At the other end, a player off form in a struggling team, then niggles start to feel more painful.

Perhaps the last line could also be interpreted as ‘looking for an excuse not to play because I’m not up for a fight’

[Billyni]

Also 3-0 and Bamford to score the first

[BelfastAndy]

Also 3-0 and Bamford to score the first

You pi5hed?

Sorry, silly question.....

[BelfastAndy]

Burnley v Middlesbrough - they're all singing 'we all hate Leeds scum'. Ar5eholes.