The Blame Game Brigade, again.

[Monaco_Totty]

Jeez barriers to transition from youth team to first team is always a common moaning theme on here & when we get a young one in then why are some so quick to criticise ?

Dont play em & we will never know, play em & then we dont give em a chance to learn their trade while playing for a Championship club half way through season going for PL glory too.
Mention of PL promotion even gets folks moaning saying we will be straight back down. So do we now go out to spend big on the likes of Rashford for 55m with wages off the planet or stick with our motley crew & exhaust the the talent we have in the quest for PL football ?

Will also add, the transition of elite youth footballers through Academy systems towards the first team is a highly complex process, to be fair nowadays.
A myriad of factors including technical competence, physical prowess & the players development environment all combine to determine a youth players progression also.

Fact is - youth players often struggle to adapt to hyper-competitiveness in a results driven first team environments & often in gaining experience have to overcome many obstacles of the tough challenges that are thrown up in the early part of their careers & jeez some fans are quick to throw barbs at em too. 🙁
But players will always be better off for it if they stick at it, as every player that eventually makes it will have overcome some sort of hurdle to deal with, including media slatings while developing.

So important to consider the multiple facets of talent development which highlights the nuances & individualised nature of player development.
Not damn easy supporting the profiling of players competence against a range of essential challenging ever changing technical, tactical, sociological, physiological & psychological metrics into generating the individual plans for each player based on their unique development needs.

Blame of the young players, blame of the coaching, blame of the sports science & blame of the psychology perspective are many of the critiques constant barbs & of course finally blame the club too.

If some folks cannot stand the heat then get outta the kitchen, some may suggest to fans who wanna play the weekly emotional blame-game finger pointing - with Joseph now under the cosh. 🙁

Just saying - on behalf of those who do see light at the end of the ER tunnel still flickering ! 👍

[norfolk white]

How many times do you put these players in and continue to drop important points ( often where you cannot then make the points back up) before you say enough is enough, meslier is not a youth graduate but is still fairly young, however he alone has cost us approximately 8 points alone this season, that will tell come the end, Joseph,however many times farke gives him a chance just doesn?t take it, many clammer for his inclusion but it doesn?t work, bring piroe on and he either scores or sets up goals, I get your point about giving youth a chance but at what cost??promotion and another sacked manager?

[whitestomper45]

How many times do you put these players in and continue to drop important points ( often where you cannot then make the points back up) before you say enough is enough, meslier is not a youth graduate but is still fairly young, however he alone has cost us approximately 8 points alone this season, that will tell come the end, Joseph,however many times farke gives him a chance just doesn?t take it, many clammer for his inclusion but it doesn?t work, bring piroe on and he either scores or sets up goals, I get your point about giving youth a chance but at what cost??promotion and another sacked manager?

Goalkeeping goofs must be in our DNA from back in the day, am not defending him but to pick out his errors as costing us, am pretty sure there have been several games he saved us. At the other end how many points have the forwards cost us? Bamford.James with his headless chicken choices of crap shooting or not passing when someone else better placed? with a group of players that all seem at times to get social media attention, you have to say Farke is doing remarkably well MOT

[ozleeds]

@ 17 year olds just won there teams matches two weeks running over here. One after winning them the week before was sub came on in second half and got a hattrick the other scored first half to win the match. It's easier for youth to get disgruntled than older players. They can quickly lose confidence. Joseph is going to be a super player when he moves away from us or we get a real manager who doesn't play favs and trust in them. Are kid was moved on now Ipswich and his playing premier league another is Hulls captain. Joffy has been totally destroyed he will never recover. He brought in 2 kids pre season and although there form in preseason was encouraging has never played them.
I would luv to see more and more rather then buy flops. Look at the grandpa we bought got a full game where was the youth?
Anyway I'm off to see a 17 year play in spain top league.

[WTF11]

Jeez barriers to transition from youth team to first team is always a common moaning theme on here & when we get a young one in then why are some so quick to criticise ?

Dont play em & we will never know, play em & then we dont give em a chance to learn their trade while playing for a Championship club half way through season going for PL glory too.
Mention of PL promotion even gets folks moaning saying we will be straight back down. So do we now go out to spend big on the likes of Rashford for 55m with wages off the planet or stick with our motley crew & exhaust the the talent we have in the quest for PL football ?

Will also add, the transition of elite youth footballers through Academy systems towards the first team is a highly complex process, to be fair nowadays.
A myriad of factors including technical competence, physical prowess & the players development environment all combine to determine a youth players progression also.

Fact is - youth players often struggle to adapt to hyper-competitiveness in a results driven first team environments & often in gaining experience have to overcome many obstacles of the tough challenges that are thrown up in the early part of their careers & jeez some fans are quick to throw barbs at em too. 🙁
But players will always be better off for it if they stick at it, as every player that eventually makes it will have overcome some sort of hurdle to deal with, including media slatings while developing.

So important to consider the multiple facets of talent development which highlights the nuances & individualised nature of player development.
Not damn easy supporting the profiling of players competence against a range of essential challenging ever changing technical, tactical, sociological, physiological & psychological metrics into generating the individual plans for each player based on their unique development needs.

Blame of the young players, blame of the coaching, blame of the sports science & blame of the psychology perspective are many of the critiques constant barbs & of course finally blame the club too.

If some folks cannot stand the heat then get outta the kitchen, some may suggest to fans who wanna play the weekly emotional blame-game finger pointing - with Joseph now under the cosh. 🙁

Just saying - on behalf of those who do see light at the end of the ER tunnel still flickering ! 👍

If you're referring to Meslier, I believe that he has had mire than eniugh chances to show his worth, and whilst I agree with WS that he has made sime class saves, tgey are the exception to the rule. I'm one who has defended him in the past but have found it impossible to ignore his inability to command the box and create confidence in his defensive line-up as well as making sime real howlers that have definitely cost us points. We need better.

If your post relates to others, please clarify.

[cherrypie7]

Will also add, the transition of elite youth footballers through Academy systems towards the first team is a highly complex process, to be fair nowadays.
A myriad of factors including technical competence, physical prowess & the players development environment all combine to determine a youth players progression also.

Fact is - youth players often struggle to adapt to hyper-competitiveness in a results driven first team environments & often in gaining experience have to overcome many obstacles of the tough challenges that are thrown up in the early part of their careers & jeez some fans are quick to throw barbs at em too. 🙁
But players will always be better off for it if they stick at it, as every player that eventually makes it will have overcome some sort of hurdle to deal with, including media slatings while developing.

So important to consider the multiple facets of talent development which highlights the nuances & individualised nature of player development.
Not damn easy supporting the profiling of players competence against a range of essential challenging ever changing technical, tactical, sociological, physiological & psychological metrics into generating the individual plans for each player based on their unique development needs.

Blame of the young players, blame of the coaching, blame of the sports science & blame of the psychology perspective are many of the critiques constant barbs & of course finally blame the club too.

If some folks cannot stand the heat then get outta the kitchen, some may suggest to fans who wanna play the weekly emotional blame-game finger pointing - with Joseph now under the cosh. 🙁

Just saying - on behalf of those who do see light at the end of the ER tunnel still flickering ! 👍

Joseph has had many chances but doesn't appear to be able to score or even to put it between the posts. I think every other young player who has been given chances has acquitted themselves reasonably well. Overall, with the injured players coming back, we have a depth we haven't had for a long, long time. Just need to have a more consistent striker and cut down errors at the back. And just want to remind everyone, we are top of the league.

[Billyni]

The scum 2nd string keeper today, only gets the odd game, caught crosses left, right and center, saved 2 penalties.
Same age as Misslier.

Only saying.

[norfolk white]

We had our second keeper in yesterday and he seemed fine, give meslier a rest and out of the firing line for a while.

[ozleeds]

We had our second keeper in yesterday and he seemed fine, give meslier a rest and out of the firing line for a while.

Yeah right Meslier will be back the weekend. Talk he was going and we are going to get another first choice when Darlow is good enough says a lot. He didn't even play him in cup games till this time. I still remember the stick i got for saying he was crap and his record of goals conceded over his time broke all records but most here were saying young, superstar worth 40 mil so on For his size to be scared to come and catch a ball is only the start. Joseph gets stick now as all were saying bring him in Piroe is crap which he is an opportunist just like Bamf could not even shoot from 20 yards out. Joseph needs playing time not in and out. He also doesn't get any support because our three wingers crowd the forward line and tend to dribble it all the way. Our goal came from a supper cross from solomon with pin point acracy but how many times we see that?

[ozleeds]

The scum 2nd string keeper today, only gets the odd game, caught crosses left, right and center, saved 2 penalties.
Same age as Misslier.

Only saying.

I remember we were heavily into Matrinez but Bielsa decided against it kept Casella and Meslier! I also remember Orta assembling a super youth system for the future wonder what happen to that only Gray made it.