O/T Labours cunning plan - again !!

[Stansmate]

To stop as many people coming over working in care homes 🤔

So its ok to let in the thousands comin in undocumented / no history etc etc

Totally clueless yet again - and they wonder why Reform are makin em look like complete two hats

UTM

[NorthWestCorner]

To stop as many people coming over working in care homes ��

So its ok to let in the thousands comin in undocumented / no history etc etc

Totally clueless yet again - and they wonder why Reform are makin em look like complete two hats

UTM

If they do this and sort out the illegals then we will get a good outcome. Massive IF though. What it will mean is that the lazy English scum who spend their lives sat on the sofa with their vapes, processed food, obesity and mass child production will need to get of their fat arses and do the work. Also unlikely to happen

[Stansmate]

I think that?s the first time we?ve agreed - hope it continues 👍

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

To stop as many people coming over working in care homes ��

So its ok to let in the thousands comin in undocumented / no history etc etc

Totally clueless yet again - and they wonder why Reform are makin em look like complete two hats

UTM

So then if they are 100% successful with their care workers plan it will be a reduction of 50000 but that still leaves a net migration figure of 806000

806000, that?s roughly the same as the population of Sheffield and Rotherham added together!!.every year !

As you say, clueless

[Timbertop]

I fear for this country,especially with another four years of this truly dreadful government. Meanwhile the silent Islamic takeover continues dragging us down to their third world standards.

[ragingpup]

Wowsers. In the space of 5 posts, we've had illegal immigration, legal immigration, dole scroungers and Eurabia conspiracy theory. Intense work guys!

[millersrus]

Sarcasm acts as source of humor and coping mechanism!

[frogmiller]

Wowsers. In the space of 5 posts, we've had illegal immigration, legal immigration, dole scroungers and Eurabia conspiracy theory. Intense work guys!

Prove they?re wrong Raging

[ragingpup]

Prove they?re wrong Raging

If the argument is that there is too much immigration (legal and illegal), how do I prove them wrong? It's an opinion.

I tend to think there is more immigration for work purposes than we actually need and that we need to invest heavily to skill up and incentivise UK workers into key positions such as care work, building etc. But I can see the difficulties in getting either us taxpayers or employers willing to cough up the huge amount of money needed, and to pay the incentives needed and so we will keep defaulting to immigration to do these jobs.

Labour are trying to plug an initiative to do this at the moment by stopping immigration visas for care work and insisting that there are enough care workers in the system already? Not sure what research they've based this on, but quite a big risk with many of our elderlies in the care system.

It's hugely complicated and until we have a definite, comprehensive and well funded proposal to fill the gaps in the workforce that immigrants are taking, then I will likely side on the opinion that we need immigrant labour to fill vacancies and even though there is more immigration than I would like, I can't see any alternatives. Extend pension age to 75? Force ex pats to return and work in the UK until they die? Makes just as much sense of forcing lazy buggers to come and teach my students.

[frogmiller]

If the argument is that there is too much immigration (legal and illegal), how do I prove them wrong? It's an opinion.

I tend to think there is more immigration for work purposes than we actually need and that we need to invest heavily to skill up and incentivise UK workers into key positions such as care work, building etc. But I can see the difficulties in getting either us taxpayers or employers willing to cough up the huge amount of money needed, and to pay the incentives needed and so we will keep defaulting to immigration to do these jobs.

Labour are trying to plug an initiative to do this at the moment by stopping immigration visas for care work and insisting that there are enough care workers in the system already? Not sure what research they've based this on, but quite a big risk with many of our elderlies in the care system.

It's hugely complicated and until we have a definite, comprehensive and well funded proposal to fill the gaps in the workforce that immigrants are taking, then I will likely side on the opinion that we need immigrant labour to fill vacancies and even though there is more immigration than I would like, I can't see any alternatives. Extend pension age to 75? Force ex pats to return and work in the UK until they die? Makes just as much sense of forcing lazy buggers to come and teach my students.

It is hugely complicated as you rightly say and you make some fantastic comments.

I used to work with immigrants that came to France with no qualifications but they wee mainly legal.

The main problem was for them to understand the need to arrive to the course on time. The lacc of respect for those wanting to advance. The complete lack of basic maths and French and the over populated areas where the young lads were put in which were on the whole high crime spots.
The drug use, the selling of drugs and the need for these kids to be accepted by anyone is a major issue.

If those steps to facilitate education and social acceptence aren't in place before unskilled immigrents arrive then no matter what happens then the vast majority of those kids will always be in trouble and a drain on resources.

I ain't coming back - my French pension has had more contributions than my British one.