Transfer Strategy

[Nufcian]

We need to get a scouting network that looks at more than the plainly f**king obvious.

We need a Sporting Director that will go for players without Premier League experience.

I am sick to death of the same names every f**king time, and apparently we are interested in Guehi? as if he is going to sign for us when he is pretty sure he just has to wait out a season at Palace and then replace Konate and make bags -full more because a) Liverpools wages structure and b) he?ll be moving on a free.

The club, and I include Eddie, have a fascination with Prem experience above most else.

Not all Eddie?s fault, but this window he had to be the one calling the shots given the lack of anyone else, and if we go after players that teams can afford to give somewhere between nearly double and more than double we will, and are likely to go in for them, we are always going to miss out until our wage structure can compete.

I know there is time left, and I know we will bring in players, but I am thoroughly disillusioned in the transfer window.

Last summer was bad enough making complete morons of ourselves with banging at Palace?s door time and time again, this summer so far has taken it to another level and if we try to sign Guehi and fail AGAIN then we deserve to be mocked.

Mitchell said the transfer strategy wasn?t fit for purpose, I?m inclined to agree seeing it this summer? it?s hard to defend the clubs performance and approach this summer.

Season starts in 10 days and I am hoping for the best, but given the amateur performance in the transfer market so far I?m resigned to the worst.

[Zippity]

Sadly spot on, Ian.

It's been an absolute shambles.It's going to massively negatively impacy our season and it didm't have to happen. A lot of this is self-inflicted.

[HughieG]

Sadly spot on, Ian.

It's been an absolute shambles.It's going to massively negatively impacy our season and it didm't have to happen. A lot of this is self-inflicted.

Not to mention the fact that players like Bruno, Tonali, Tino etc. will be looking at the lack of activity and think "this club won't win another trophy acting like this" and think seriously about leaving.

[toonviking]

Interesting points. And who knows, maybe Mitchell was a bit right in that the strategy wasnt right? So far, it seems he was spot on.

Also, like you point out, for how long is the likes of Bruno, Tonali etc, going to stay when they see that our squad hasnt improved one bit since they joined... scary thoughts.

To stretch it even further, maybe the saudis are happy with that. A bit like Ashley on steriodes.

[smorgan86]

I think it'll be very difficuly to get the fans behind the team with the window we've had. We're playing competetive footy in 10 days and if we lose the first game and go into the our first home game against Liverpool without strengething significantly, expect the worst SJP atmosphere since Howe has come in.

It isn't over till it's over but we've completely wasted our summer and look resigned to go into this season weaker than last.

[Ragatino]

We need to get a scouting network that looks at more than the plainly f**king obvious.

We need a Sporting Director that will go for players without Premier League experience.

I am sick to death of the same names every f**king time, and apparently we are interested in Guehi? as if he is going to sign for us when he is pretty sure he just has to wait out a season at Palace and then replace Konate and make bags -full more because a) Liverpools wages structure and b) he?ll be moving on a free.

The club, and I include Eddie, have a fascination with Prem experience above most else.

Not all Eddie?s fault, but this window he had to be the one calling the shots given the lack of anyone else, and if we go after players that teams can afford to give somewhere between nearly double and more than double we will, and are likely to go in for them, we are always going to miss out until our wage structure can compete.

I know there is time left, and I know we will bring in players, but I am thoroughly disillusioned in the transfer window.

Last summer was bad enough making complete morons of ourselves with banging at Palace?s door time and time again, this summer so far has taken it to another level and if we try to sign Guehi and fail AGAIN then we deserve to be mocked.

Mitchell said the transfer strategy wasn?t fit for purpose, I?m inclined to agree seeing it this summer? it?s hard to defend the clubs performance and approach this summer.

Season starts in 10 days and I am hoping for the best, but given the amateur performance in the transfer market so far I?m resigned to the worst.

The transfer plan has been essentially torpedoed by Isak.

Essentially the plans were thrown out the window and the club have had to pivot not just once but twice in the window.

The transfer summit before the end of the season should have been the start & Mitchell should have lined up the contracts and closed the deals. I get the feeling that he got zero positive feedback and rather than trying he quit.

Leaving Eddie, Andy & Nickson to carry the can, which he p!ssed off to watch the whole thing turn to ****.

It appears that due to the derailment of the transfer plan and the absence of a proper negotiator / closer has resulted in Eddie and Nickson going back in for targets they knew would and could do the job, hit the ground running.

Here we are.

It's a **** show. Fully embarrassing fiasco. The PiF are not going to like this, nor are they likely to repeat the same mistakes.

Hiring Eales looked like a great idea. Superb CV built a club from the ground up. Did nothing.
Mitchell. Amazing CV, found Son, Mane yada yada. Did nothing.

Silverstone. Great CV. Seured amazing contracts for Arsenal. Was last seen flogging socks and knock down priced shirts in Koreans... What a clown.

I don't know what his Excellency must be thinking but the fact is we need to bring in football people. Keegan needs an Ambassadorial role. Get him out to Germany where he is a god and get him promoting the club. Nobby in South America doing the same.

These are easy additions to the club.

[tinostongue]

I think it'll be very difficuly to get the fans behind the team with the window we've had. We're playing competetive footy in 10 days and if we lose the first game and go into the our first home game against Liverpool without strengething significantly, expect the worst SJP atmosphere since Howe has come in.

It isn't over till it's over but we've completely wasted our summer and look resigned to go into this season weaker than last.

It’s not the players fault and it would be completely the wrong response to make the atmosphere toxic, that’s one sure way to chase Bruno, Tonali, Gordon etc out of the club. In Eddie and the players we trust, we HAVE TO

[Guybrush]

I would say this window has been indicative of the state we?re at as a club.

We are in that transition period where we are progressing, but not at that top table yet.

Meaning we cannot give top talent the ?pride?? For want of a better word of having played for say Man U or Liverpool.

And we cannot not beat them either on wages to ?compensate? for signing for us over them.

I for one think we need to be looking at those players with something to prove - although it is nice to be linked to the top table - these guys think they have already made it if they sign for the cartel clubs.

When in fact they are going to go there and stagnate, or worse go backwards - because they are 9/10 times not all they have read about themselves in the media.

They don?t think they need an Eddie Howe to develop them, they already believe they are the new Messi and Ronaldo?s

Where in actual fact, the premier league is a different beast, Amorim doesn?t develop his players, he doesn?t help them acclimatise.

He chucks them into his system, and if they don?t succeed, throws them under the bus to save himself from criticism.

Burn, Bruno, JL, Tonali, Tino, Hall, Isak, even Murphy need to be used as shining examples to show how players can improve at this club - but that will only work on players that know they can become better.

Maybe we do need to look at that next tier down - hungry players who will work hard to improve themselves.

Not the ?200k+ per week players who go through the motions on the pitch because they believe their own hype.

[Ragatino]

I would say this window has been indicative of the state we?re at as a club.

We are in that transition period where we are progressing, but not at that top table yet.

Meaning we cannot give top talent the ?pride?? For want of a better word of having played for say Man U or Liverpool.

And we cannot not beat them either on wages to ?compensate? for signing for us over them.

I for one think we need to be looking at those players with something to prove - although it is nice to be linked to the top table - these guys think they have already made it if they sign for the cartel clubs.

When in fact they are going to go there and stagnate, or worse go backwards - because they are 9/10 times not all they have read about themselves in the media.

They don?t think they need an Eddie Howe to develop them, they already believe they are the new Messi and Ronaldo?s

Where in actual fact, the premier league is a different beast, Amorim doesn?t develop his players, he doesn?t help them acclimatise.

He chucks them into his system, and if they don?t succeed, throws them under the bus to save himself from criticism.

Burn, Bruno, JL, Tonali, Tino, Hall, Isak, even Murphy need to be used as shining examples to show how players can improve at this club - but that will only work on players that know they can become better.

Maybe we do need to look at that next tier down - hungry players who will work hard to improve themselves.

Not the ?200k+ per week players who go through the motions on the pitch because they believe their own hype.

Yeah man, growing pains. Stuck in the mid-table budget region with top table ambitions and delivery thus far.

[Ragatino]

My thoughts on things.

With the constant Fraudulence of the paid shill Romano and his ilk. The once joys of exciting Transfer windows is long gone. Replaced by long arduous grind of ***breaking***Exclusives*** BS


All the fun has been sucked out of the off season.

What Eddie has achieved since joining. Attracting the likes of Bruno, Tonali & Isak, Botman etc. Proves the club and team can get things done when they have a negoitator/closer on team. Not since Amanda left have we had that in position. Either Eales' illness or Mitchells perceived apathy for the targets and strategy lead to an unwilling and umotivated DoF with his own ideas feeling like he was being undermined.

A man who's never stayed in a job more than 2 yrs was never gonna spearhead our 5 yr development plan.

That's water under the bridge. The frame work for the current predicament.

However, that can not be blamed in totality for the shower of a window the club have experienced thus far.



When we did the Bruno deals etc 2 things were clear.

1. We still weren't seen as a serious threat. The cartel thought that it would be containable.

With their attention being focused else where, we were able to do good business quickly and quietly. None of those deals were played out in public.

2. We needed to recruit for every position and the cartel were pretty well stocked.

The targets we went for were the 'nearly men', the ones who were 2 seasons away from world class about to have their break out season.

Bruno, Isak, Botman are all there now. Tonali was joining more advanced in his progression and matched the other guys level.

The all grew together. This season the plan was to add the next level of players to match our current squad without having a development gap.

Before the Ekitike deal the media were freaking out. They had us as outside title contenders. The dark horse. :

Like Leicester, 'Never again', the cartel couldn't allow that to happen.

So they got everything, all systems UP.

All agents. UP. All contacts informed 'If Newcastle reach out to sign your player or reach out to your agency we want to know immediately. We want all the details.

All media outlets UP.

Meaning that all our business, executed in swift silence previously was never going to be possible once the machine slipped into top gear.

So this is the situation as it stands.

Like him or loath him Simon Jordan made an interesting comment 'Time for Newcastle United to pull on their big boy pants and make statements.

I'd go in deep and hard for Paqueta (we all know he's a top quality player not the betting BS is behind him) or Oihan Sancet (17 goals last season for Bilbao) & Amir Richardson or Mahamadou Doumbia for the two Midfield additions.

At this point, Woltemade's move to Bayern looks to be at grindlock. Stuttgart want a lot more money that Bayern aren't prepared to pay.

Stuttgart want 55m Euro. Bayern don't want to pay more than 45m Euro.

We've put in bids for players at 80m Euro. The smart play in a 60m Euro bid which is well above the 55m Stuttgart want & Bayern would have to pay well over their price.

The lad is better than anything left. He's better than Sesko TBH. It's the better deal.

Paqueta, Amir Richards & Woltemade would the three I'd go for.