Calls for Starmer to Resign

[baggieal]

Now over 50 MP?S want him gone and Labour were absolutely smashed at the local elections.

Starmer will not stand down though as he?s a complete narcissist and truly does not believe the level of hate. The billy bollox talk about proving voters wrong is all talk and it?s obvious he knows what he needs to do but simply will not!

Horrible weak man and the dislike of him will get worse.

As for Labour - they clearly are a complete shambles.

[greyhorse]

Yep calls for Starmer to resign, and then there?s calls for you to pipe down fella. Do one. For someone to have such an issue with people emigrating here, starts a thread about ?where would you move to abroad?. I?ve lost the will to live. Nobody wants to read your political posts. Didn?t you say you?d take time off this site once?

Before you say, i?m from Staffordshire.

[baggieal]

Yep calls for Starmer to resign, and then there?s calls for you to pipe down fella. Do one. For someone to have such an issue with people emigrating here, starts a thread about ?where would you move to abroad?. I?ve lost the will to live. Nobody wants to read your political posts. Didn?t you say you?d take time off this site once?

Before you say, i?m from Staffordshire.

Well well it?s Oldham Baggie back to his finest coming on here once every month. Are you still two feet smaller than the wife and if so you need to get one of her top hats on 😭😭😂

[Omegstrat6]

Now 70 Labour MPs coming out to demand that Starmer sets a timetable for stepping down I believe.

To be fair, he did show some very belated passion in his "save my job" speech which (I personally) believe wasn't so much about protecting his own interests but showing, for example, that he has genuine concerns for the many thousands of working people in this country stuck in low paid jobs with scant opportunities for whom the "status quo" in politics as he calls it (why he hasn't the balls to call it Tory policies I don't know) hasn't worked and on whom the current economic situation is impacting most. He also expressed his belief that a politician's primary aim should be about improving the lives for the next and future generations.

Starmer then noted that Labour have overseen a decrease in immigration levels, particularly in illegal immigration via the channel, and also a decrease in NHS waiting lists as well as the beginnings of an upturn in the economy. As far as I am aware, all these claims are true even if the achievements are all minimal at present.

He then said that the rise of populism was a danger to British "values" and that leaders like Farage were grifters, promising the electorate improvements that they had no way of fulfilling. They attracted support because the electorate was so frustrated by the situation in the country that they latched onto those promising quick fixes. The reality, however, was that there are no quick fixes and that international events (such as the rising oil prices due to Trumps war on Iran) made things worse because they did have an impact on the economy and that closer economic ties with Europe were needed it the country was to see any growth.

In all honesty, I personally don't doubt a lot of the above but this passion is likely too little, too late and he both didn't go far enough and he didn't fully acknowledge his own failings as a leader. That he has no charisma isn't critical but his communication and listening skills are woeful. People dont really know what he stands for because he never puts his views across in a clear and impassioned way and because he never seems to think things through properly, he too often ends up having to reconsider and make U-turns which make him appear weak and inept. He consistently fails to read the room so doesn't properly address people's concerns and his judgement (Mandelson being the very obvious one) has been found to be pretty appalling at times. In short, he lacks key leadership qualities and that was what cost Labour all those losses in the local elections as much as anything else. I'd argue, it was the biggest reason.

I actually believe that he has done pretty good job on the international front considering the lack of "hard" power this country has and in standing up to Trump but whilst I personally that believe many of his domestic policies were the right thing to do (not basing winter fuel payments solely on age, closing the tax loop holes in farming being exploited by wealthy individuals or businesses, the Workers Rights bill, re-nationalizing steel) others he got badly wrong (passing the 2% NI costs on to businesses).

Judging by the number of Labour MPs coming out against him continuing as leader, I don't think his speech has persuaded them that he can change. I don't blame them, though I do worry quite a bit about who they may replace him with!

Ordinarily, I believe that John Major is right in that politics in recent years has seen too many frequent changes in leadership and that a level of stability is important both on the domestic and international front but that doesn't take into account the abilities and natures of the PMs we have been saddled with-Johnson, Truss and Starmer particularly😟