General News Chat

[InversneckieDob]

Communism and socialism always end up killing millions of people.

How would you know?

Not espousing either socio-political construct, just curious on what you'd base such an assertion?

It's not like you'd throw out ill-informed cliches just for attention is it?

I could never see that happening.

[Jupiter]

Have you never herad of Stalin or Mao Tse Tung? They killed 10s of millions of people. Or what about Pol Pot?

[Mason89]

I feel we’re only one post away from ‘Hitler was a national SOCIALIST’

[InversneckieDob]

Have you never herad of Stalin or Mao Tse Tung? They killed 10s of millions of people. Or what about Pol Pot?

Indeed, I think they also pretended to be Communist.

[Basingstokered]

Indeed, I think they also pretended to be Communist.

Is a proper socialist someone like Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro who basically just steal the country’s resources.

Was Jeremy Corbyn a proper socialist

[donsdaft]

Is Donald Trump one of the good guys?

[57vintage]

Is Donald Trump one of the good guys?

Fill the **** full of bangers and jumping jacks on 5 November and we'll see.

[donsdaft]

Ken iss, 57 min.

You think you've seen it all, and then the Yanks put Trump in the Whitehouse.

Unbef'uckinlevable.

[Jupiter]

Ken iss, 57 min.

You think you've seen it all, and then the Yanks put Trump in the Whitehouse.

Unbef'uckinlevable.

4 more years

[InversneckieDob]

Is a proper socialist someone like Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro who basically just steal the country’s resources.

Was Jeremy Corbyn a proper socialist

Nae sure TBH (as regards the first two).
From what I know of Cuba and Venezuela there's elements of the model in play, but both nations fall within a geographic sphere of influence of the U.S so would have little chance of success.

Corbyn put together a manifesto that I could have damn near voted for, but in the end I made a single issue choice.
What the socioeconomic model he'd have put together in government would have looked like I have no idea.

I get the impression my original point has been missed.

I was not espousing the practical virtues of a bona fide Socialist/Communist economic model (for what it's worth, in today's global free market, I don't think a model of this nature could work unless that particular bation was wholly resource and productivity self-sufficient).

My point was ore linguistic than ideological.

Namely, the practice of ill-informed people throwing the phrase "Lefty" "Commy" and "Socialist" in a pejorative fashion at anything they don't like, when it is patently no of those things.

I was on another message board where this particularly dumb woman, from NZ who hated Jacinta Arden, was railing against a policy relating to the indirect taxation of motorists (road tax or fuel duty.........can't recall which).

Apparently, this policy, indirect rather than direct taxation being an acknowledged tool of the right, rendered her a "Socialist b1tch".

I think this is a by-product of the whole politics as a team sport thing, which in turn is one of the products of a two party political system.

[InversneckieDob]

4 more years

Would that be a positive thing?

[Jupiter]

Would that be a positive thing?

There's only one way to find out.

[donsdaft]

Let’s hope that they don’t bother trying

[Mason89]

There's only one way to find out.

Or you could look at the job he’s done & his conduct so far & make a judgement based on that.

Given the choice, I’d rather not have an incompetent racist drug snorting rapist who in all probability has f*cked his own daughter running the show but I’m a lefty

[Jupiter]

Or you could look at the job he’s done & his conduct so far & make a judgement based on that.

Given the choice, I’d rather not have an incompetent racist drug snorting rapist who in all probability has f*cked his own daughter running the show but I’m a lefty

Or you could look at Joe Biden who doesn't even know what day it is and appears to be in the early stages of Alzheimers.