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  • Originally posted by Basingstokered View Post
    Do you want me to link to news articles about straight male *** offenders, see who runs out first? Trans people are capable of committing crimes, just like everyone else. If your starting point is they’re all s3x offenders, than that’s where the bigotry kicks in. That’s school out for the day

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    • Originally posted by stewarty27 View Post
      Well that's the thing there will be no moving on !! Sturgeon and her rape enabling MSPs have probably killed Independence stone dead, Hope your/You're enjoying afternoon tea.
      Curious about the "rape enabling" reference?

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      • Originally posted by claw84 View Post
        Yes, this gives us an insight as to a future indy SNP govt, spending all their time arguing about who is a boy or girl, what a load of tossers.

        Lot of of truth in the saying they could not run a bath never mind a great country like Scotland.
        What makes you think that a post-Indy Scotland would be governed by a SNP government?

        I'd have thought that the attainment of the single issue that unites an ideologically disparate political movement would lead to the disbandment of said disparate political movement.
        I'd go as far us to say it would be inevitable.

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        • Originally posted by Mason89 View Post
          Do you want me to link to news articles about straight male *** offenders, see who runs out first? Trans people are capable of committing crimes, just like everyone else. If your starting point is they’re all s3x offenders, than that’s where the bigotry kicks in. That’s school out for the day
          You said the scenario would be made up I posted an article to show that it’s not made up. Right on cue you accuse people of being bigots . If trans women are women in your eyes why do you use the word trans in front of it ?

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          • A recent class action lawsuit alleges a culture of sexual abuse runs riot at the notorious jail.


            This suggests the culture of ***ual abuse at Rikers stretches WAY beyond trans prisoners.

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            • Originally posted by claw84 View Post
              Yes, this gives us an insight as to a future indy SNP govt, spending all their time arguing about who is a boy or girl, what a load of tossers.

              Lot of of truth in the saying they could not run a bath never mind a great country like Scotland.
              It's great that that they can look to Westminster to see how government and parliament should be run...

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              • Originally posted by Mason89 View Post
                You can invent any scenario in your head to justify your bigotry
                Oh dearie Me you don't have a clue do you ? Not a phucking clue !

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                • Originally posted by InversneckieDob View Post
                  https://www.vice.com/en/article/nz8g...-rikers-island

                  This suggests the culture of ***ual abuse at Rikers stretches WAY beyond trans prisoners.
                  That article is from when Obama was President so the report would have been from years ago. I don’t think anyone would think there’s not a culture of rape in male prisons where it’s different is putting males into females prison it’s bound to happen.

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                  • Originally posted by stewarty27 View Post
                    Oh dearie Me you don't have a clue do you ? Not a phucking clue !
                    Unfortunately for you, the Scottish government, the electorate that put them there & the science disagrees. You keep stamping your feet though, it’s pretty funny

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                    • A more recent article


                      Point is that there appears to because horrendous culture in Rikers, and to try to conflate that with trans issues is something of a Strawman argument.

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                        This person thinks trans people are s*x offenders. This is the state you can get into, when you don’t understand the game that’s being played.

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                        • The only thing that's guaranteed in the whole debate is that anyone who disagrees with Mason would be deemed " angry"

                          Legality has nothing to do with it.

                          A man can't be a woman no matter what he has cut off.

                          Point and laugh at the freaks.

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                          • You’re all seething

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                            • Nobody's seething, everyone is laughing.

                              weirdos and freaks etc etc.

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                              • Originally posted by Donanddusted View Post
                                They'll use it in their usual divide and conquer play.
                                I’ve no dog in the fight at all. I just want people to be happy in their lives and get on with trying to keep their heads above water in ever more trying circumstances. If it turns out to work, good. If it turns out to be bad law like that ill-advised over-the-top football act nonsense, it can be repealed. And I find it sad that good politicians like Cherry will now be defined by this minor controversy for the rest of their careers. John Mason, though, is a ****ing right wing god-bothering zoomer.

                                As for divide and rule, there are a couple of posters in these here parts whose right-on facades are occasionally undermined by their attempts to use that right wing device when obviously shjite-stirring.

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