Sack Jimmy Turnip

[RED_JOHN]

It was time to move on from Derek McInnes when we did but you were going on about getting rid of him 5 years before we did and insisted we could easily replace him with a better manager.

The Celtic fans in my work and the ones I see comment on social media think Brendan Rodgers is a brilliant manager, personally I think if he was our manager he wouldnt be doing any better than Thelin is for us and the St Johnstone manager would be running away with the league if he was in charge of Celtic.

Willie Miller is a legend but you and him need to get over the fact we are never going to be as good as we were under Alex Ferguson in the 1980s

Brendan Rodgers would have us far better prepared than Derek McInnes, Jim Goodwin, Jimmy Thelin etc. I am not going to slate a manager who constantly wins trophies even though he has the biggest budget because he generally beats the opposition easily enough here.

Is he under enough pressure from his opposition teams?.absolutely not. You could argue he is getting his hands too easily on trophies here but he is getting the trophies and his position at his club is very safe.

I agree Willie Miller and Alex Ferguson etc are legends but we must learn from how these guys conducted themselves as players and obviously Ferguson as a manager. I would suggest they both worked extremely hard on their game because their haul of trophies etc speaks volumes. Not pushing yourself hard enough at football is going to do yourself no favours. Players and managers who excel in the game all work very hard.
Aberdeen FC are LAZY. The football we all watch points to that.

[Shetland Don]

Brendan Rodgers would have us far better prepared than Derek McInnes, Jim Goodwin, Jimmy Thelin etc. I am not going to slate a manager who constantly wins trophies even though he has the biggest budget because he generally beats the opposition easily enough here.

Is he under enough pressure from his opposition teams?.absolutely not. You could argue he is getting his hands too easily on trophies here but he is getting the trophies and his position at his club is very safe.

I agree Willie Miller and Alex Ferguson etc are legends but we must learn from how these guys conducted themselves as players and obviously Ferguson as a manager. I would suggest they both worked extremely hard on their game because their haul of trophies etc speaks volumes. Not pushing yourself hard enough at football is going to do yourself no favours. Players and managers who excel in the game all work very hard.
Aberdeen FC are LAZY. The football we all watch points to that.

?I am not going to slate a manager who constantly wins trophies even though he has the biggest budget because he generally beats the opposition easily enough here.? - is that logical!? A manager with the biggest budget, all else being equal, is surely expected to beat the opposition!

[rico94]

Brendan Rodgers would have us far better prepared than Derek McInnes, Jim Goodwin, Jimmy Thelin etc. I am not going to slate a manager who constantly wins trophies even though he has the biggest budget because he generally beats the opposition easily enough here.

Is he under enough pressure from his opposition teams?.absolutely not. You could argue he is getting his hands too easily on trophies here but he is getting the trophies and his position at his club is very safe.

I agree Willie Miller and Alex Ferguson etc are legends but we must learn from how these guys conducted themselves as players and obviously Ferguson as a manager. I would suggest they both worked extremely hard on their game because their haul of trophies etc speaks volumes. Not pushing yourself hard enough at football is going to do yourself no favours. Players and managers who excel in the game all work very hard.
Aberdeen FC are LAZY. The football we all watch points to that.

You are digging yourself into a deeper hole again with that post.

Do you think Brendan Rodgers would win the SPFL with any other team than Celtic?

He is a cheque book manager at best,any manager in the league could runaway with the title if they were in charge of Celtic.

I never like to criticise Willie Miller after what he done for us as a player but the standards he has as a radio pundit (pre and post ) are a lot higher than they were as a director of football .

[Mason89]

Director of football was only the job title. He was hired to block criticism of Milne, which worked out quite well

[rico94]

Whatever the job title was that Willie Miller had at the time he certainly let his standards drop.

Definitely the best player we have ever had but not particularly good at anything else he has done since.

[Shetland Don]

Whatever the job title was that Willie Miller had at the time he certainly let his standards drop.

Definitely the best player we have ever had but not particularly good at anything else he has done since.

His business ventures didn?t end well, I agree. He?s a very decent pundit I?d argue, though.

[rico94]

His business ventures didn?t end well, I agree. He?s a very decent pundit I?d argue, though.

He is as good as the majority of them I suppose.

Not really a difficult job criticising others and being negative all the time.

Roy Keane gets a lot of praise for telling it like it is but he wasnt the best manager in the world himself.

Willie Miller is entitled to his opinion like the rest of us though and that includes red john but some people need to be a bit more realistic.

Theres nobody in the world coming in and going to make us win every game and play other teams off the park week in week out.

[57vintage]

Whatever the job title was that Willie Miller had at the time he certainly let his standards drop.

Definitely the best player we have ever had but not particularly good at anything else he has done since.

He canna fry fash.

[RED_JOHN]

?I am not going to slate a manager who constantly wins trophies even though he has the biggest budget because he generally beats the opposition easily enough here.? - is that logical!? A manager with the biggest budget, all else being equal, is surely expected to beat the opposition!

He does though. We have the third largest by a distance (currently) so anything below third is surely a failure?

I don’t like Celtic but I am honest enough to say that Rodgers is doing his job there. His team play a far more attractive game than us. They attack better, they defend better and they win the trophies in this country. He and his players do their job….we however don’t. We make life very easy for them because we refuse to work harder.

Every single one of us is desperate to win the Scottish Cup. The older posters here will remember how we put up a great fight (for any trophy) and how the team tried extremely hard and pushed themselves against the odds.
What would we give to see Thelin’s Aberdeen team win that cup against Celtic. It’s more than doable but we must work harder than them right until that final whistle goes from now on in.
We must prepare a hell of a lot stronger and better than anything previously this season.

There will be at least 20,000 fans there wanting to see us have a real go at them.
Let’s put Brendan Rodgers under real scrutiny and pressure by winning the cup. Let’s see how they cope. Am I dreaming or is it a possibility?
The answer is with Jimmy Thelin his coaching team and his players. They need to be giving it their all.

We will see exactly how prepared and how hard they are willing to push themselves when that game gets underway.

Thelin is under more pressure than Rodgers. Rodgers has the better squad so we need to have the better manager to give ourselves a fighting chance.

[RED_JOHN]

You are digging yourself into a deeper hole again with that post.

Do you think Brendan Rodgers would win the SPFL with any other team than Celtic?

He is a cheque book manager at best,any manager in the league could runaway with the title if they were in charge of Celtic.

I never like to criticise Willie Miller after what he done for us as a player but the standards he has as a radio pundit (pre and post ) are a lot higher than they were as a director of football .

Not at all and I suggest you are the one who is stuck in a bigger hole.

I think Rodgers would have us playing far better football than we currently do. Do you think Thelin would have Celtic as commanding in our league as they currently do? Thelin wasn’t ever considered for their job because he wasn’t ever good enough and that’s the harsh reality. He wasn’t second choice to Barry Robson here so have a think about that.
No point arguing that Thelin is somewhat a better manager than Rodgers when the evidence suggests Thelin is nowhere near the same quality.
The pressure is definitely more on Thelin going into this cup final than Rodgers. Celtic will not be getting a doing from an Aberdeen led Thelin team. Where Aberdeen could easily get a severe doing from a Rodgers led Celtic team.
Any manager in our bad Scottish league could lead Aberdeen out in that cup final for a doing. Not everyone of them would win multiple treble’s for Celtic (i would actually suggest none of them would).
Rodgers is the best manager in the country so let’s not kid ourselves on and suggest anyone could do his job as accomplished.
For what it’s worth i would take great pleasure seeing Jimmy Turnip prove me wrong but I am clear favourite to be spot on in my prediction that it’s Celtic’s cup to throw away.

[rico94]

Not at all and I suggest you are the one who is stuck in a bigger hole.

I think Rodgers would have us playing far better football than we currently do. Do you think Thelin would have Celtic as commanding in our league as they currently do? Thelin wasn’t ever considered for their job because he wasn’t ever good enough and that’s the harsh reality. He wasn’t second choice to Barry Robson here so have a think about that.
No point arguing that Thelin is somewhat a better manager than Rodgers when the evidence suggests Thelin is nowhere near the same quality.
The pressure is definitely more on Thelin going into this cup final than Rodgers. Celtic will not be getting a doing from an Aberdeen led Thelin team. Where Aberdeen could easily get a severe doing from a Rodgers led Celtic team.
Any manager in our bad Scottish league could lead Aberdeen out in that cup final for a doing. Not everyone of them would win multiple treble’s for Celtic (i would actually suggest none of them would).
Rodgers is the best manager in the country so let’s not kid ourselves on and suggest anyone could do his job as accomplished.
For what it’s worth i would take great pleasure seeing Jimmy Turnip prove me wrong but I am clear favourite to be spot on in my prediction that it’s Celtic’s cup to throw away.

I never said Thelin was a better manager than Brendan Rodgers but theres no doubt at all that Thelin would easily win the league with Celtic and Brendan Rodgers would do no better than 3rd if he was our manager.

Jimmy Thelin will be our manager next season whatever happens this season,Cormack thinks the sun shines out of his arse and will be very reluctant to sack him after spending so long trying to get him here.

I said after the 0-0 draw with St Johnstone that Thelin will be under more pressure next season from the fans if he continues to get disappointing results and quite rightly so but from what I have heard the board will be persevering with Thelin for the foreseeable future unless we are in a horrendous situation.

[NaeMairNeeps]

Brendan Rodgers is currently on ?3 million per year.

If Aberdeen appointed him as our manager, we would have a transfer budget of at least negative ?2 million ... and rather than sign top players, we would need to sign something like 3 Sam Cosgroves for ?20k and sell for ?2 million EVERY year ...

So ... No! Brendan Rodgers would not make us a better team ... in fact, administration would be a more likely outcome.

If you dare to speculate whilst downplaying, let alone ignoring, the current financial gulf, then you are destined to spik pish.

[TheDeeDon]

Brendan Rodgers is currently on ?3 million per year.

If Aberdeen appointed him as our manager, we would have a transfer budget of at least negative ?2 million ... and rather than sign top players, we would need to sign something like 3 Sam Cosgroves for ?20k and sell for ?2 million EVERY year ...

So ... No! Brendan Rodgers would not make us a better team ... in fact, administration would be a more likely outcome.

If you dare to speculate whilst downplaying, let alone ignoring, the current financial gulf, then you are destined to spik pish.

He's best ignored min.
You can't get through to him on the money side. It's all about being lazy.

I think, whilst it's been a tad frustrating this season, it has been successful overall.

We have made the top six and one cup semi (albeit we got pumped) and have another final to contest.

We have implemented a style of play that is a joy to watch when it works and frustrating as f*ck when it doesn't.

We have improved the quality of the squad, but still work to be done on that front. We can't just buy the right personnel in two windows.

Jimmy isn't going anywhere, unless he decides to quit of his own accord.
Dave C loves him and I think most of us can see improvements.

Jimmy also speaks a lot of sense after games. He firstly told us we were overachieving during the winning run and never got carried away. He also never blames anyone else for the sh*tshows and is frustrated as the rest of us.

It could all very well go t*ts up next season and Jimmy does depart, but I'll happily stick with Jimmy, than worry about what some of our bi-polar fan base think. Especially our resident troll on here

[rico94]

He's best ignored min.
You can't get through to him on the money side. It's all about being lazy.

I think, whilst it's been a tad frustrating this season, it has been successful overall.

We have made the top six and one cup semi (albeit we got pumped) and have another final to contest.

We have implemented a style of play that is a joy to watch when it works and frustrating as f*ck when it doesn't.

We have improved the quality of the squad, but still work to be done on that front. We can't just buy the right personnel in two windows.

Jimmy isn't going anywhere, unless he decides to quit of his own accord.
Dave C loves him and I think most of us can see improvements.

Jimmy also speaks a lot of sense after games. He firstly told us we were overachieving during the winning run and never got carried away. He also never blames anyone else for the sh*tshows and is frustrated as the rest of us.

It could all very well go t*ts up next season and Jimmy does depart, but I'll happily stick with Jimmy, than worry about what some of our bi-polar fan base think. Especially our resident troll on here

I think most people can see that Thelin has had a decent fight season. Hopefully we win the Scottish cup but even if we dont finishing 4th with a cup final and reaching the semi final in the league cup is not bad for his first year.

Obviously next season he will have to improve on certain things. We have lost 3 times to St Mirren this season and thats not good enough,apart from the draw against Celtic we have put in our usual poor performances against them.

Im not entirely convinced it?s down to the style of play, we played hoofball under Robson but still lost to St Mirren and got ripped apart by Celtic numerous times.

Thelin needs to find a way to exploit these teams weaknesses like they do against us.

[TheDeeDon]

I think most people can see that Thelin has had a decent fight season. Hopefully we win the Scottish cup but even if we dont finishing 4th with a cup final and reaching the semi final in the league cup is not bad for his first year.

Obviously next season he will have to improve on certain things. We have lost 3 times to St Mirren this season and thats not good enough,apart from the draw against Celtic we have put in our usual poor performances against them.

Im not entirely convinced it?s down to the style of play, we played hoofball under Robson but still lost to St Mirren and got ripped apart by Celtic numerous times.

Thelin needs to find a way to exploit these teams weaknesses like they do against us.

I've said all season, that our game working is based on our wide players. St Mirren and other teams stop us playing this way.

We still passed the ball around yesterday and retained possession, but we were shyte in the final third and it kills us.

I'm convinced a couple of quality wide players and a number 10 would go a long way to ensure we can get past St Mirren and other anti fitba teams.

Getting the said players is easier said than done.

I've also said before, that despite our record against them being poor over recent seasons, I'd much rather have Jimmy at the helm, than the wee leprechaun Robinson and his eye bleeding football any day of the week.