OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[ramAnag]

Now the dust has settled and everyone has now excepted Brexit, Who would you like to be our next Prime Minister, I know most folk would want Nigel Farage but at the moment that's not possible.

Well, one year on - from the vote not the thread - and although the 'dust' is still anything but 'settled'...who'd have thought...UKIP is dead...Farage is some sort of radio presenter...the then PM is a nonentity...the current PM is not much better...and because of that referendum...prices are higher...holidays much more expensive...jobs less secure...wages no better...there's a shortage of migrant labour to harvest the crops and our Government, which is rapidly becoming the laughing stock of Europe, is dependent upon the approval of a bunch of Ulstermen whose views seem to be stuck in the nineteeenth century. So thanks Brexiteers and happy birthday...you must all be so proud.

[AdiSalisbury]

Quite a sweeping statement Mr Anag!

I am really happy, our government have taken forward the nation's decision and are now officially enacting it. I respect your opinion but disagree with your disapproval; I see good signs leading to a long and prosperous future ahead for yours and mine. You are welcome.

[ramAnag]

Quite a sweeping statement Mr Anag!

I am really happy, our government have taken forward the nation's decision and are now officially enacting it. I respect your opinion but disagree with your disapproval; I see good signs leading to a long and prosperous future ahead for yours and mine. You are welcome.

How politely put Adi. Not a sweeping statement though...just factual. I regularly agree with most of what you write but on this issue we'll have to disagree. Perhaps you could share the 'good signs' or tell me of one good thing that has happened to this country in the last year...other than a reduced Tory majority.

[roger_ramjet]

We won the under 19s football world cup thanks to the unstinting efforts of Teresa May; Ben Smith ran 401 marathons in as many days and then theres Tilly Sawford. You dont have to look in the political arena to see good things in this country

[AdiSalisbury]

How politely put Adi. Not a sweeping statement though...just factual. I regularly agree with most of what you write but on this issue we'll have to disagree. Perhaps you could share the 'good signs' or tell me of one good thing that has happened to this country in the last year...other than a reduced Tory majority.

The value of my company shares have increased by around 30%, after 11 years of investing in them via my wages, this is most welcome and an indication that there is confidence in the industry I work for.

[swaledale]

More an indication that the falling pound has increase shares which are largely priced in dollars on the world market - unfortunately lower wages, higher costs and a stagnant economy may well mean that any apparent gain will be offset by losses. Fortunately all the political upheaval seems to have brought people to their senses and the focus is on a brexit deal which focuses on jobs and the economy, that its also increasingly likely that there will be a transition phase for up to 5 years, means that the worst possible outcomes may well be avoided.

[mistaram]

ramAnag. There are some good signs in the last year. Camaron gone Camara gone McLaren.gone Rush gone Trump visit cancelled Queens speech with nothing in it and cancelled for next year Manage to increase the population by another 538,000according to today's ONS figures and they are just the ones they know about So a bit less gloom please 😃😃

[macstheman]

We got rid of 'Brolly Man'!!

[Andy_Faber]

ramAnag. There are some good signs in the last year. Camaron gone Camara gone McLaren.gone Rush gone Trump visit cancelled Queens speech with nothing in it and cancelled for next year Manage to increase the population by another 538,000according to today's ONS figures and they are just the ones they know about So a bit less gloom please 😃😃

Half a million a year just has to stop, its bonkers. I repeat what I've said before, I love my fellow man so long as he comes in peace, AS AN INDIVIDUAL, but a million every two years is IMO the main reason our public services are creaking, we appear to need extra immigrants just to service the extra immigrants.

[ramAnag]

ramAnag. There are some good signs in the last year. Camaron gone Camara gone McLaren.gone Rush gone Trump visit cancelled Queens speech with nothing in it and cancelled for next year Manage to increase the population by another 538,000according to today's ONS figures and they are just the ones they know about So a bit less gloom please ����

Well the football stuff and the postponement of Trump's visit I'll agree with. I was though talking politically and, apart from Adi's shares and Swale's increased optimism about the type of Brexit we might face, I note no one is really disagreeing. Add to that the fact that our Foreign Secretary no less gave the type of interview yesterday that would have made Diane Abbot look competent - very little said incidentally - and I see few grounds for optimism except that his inane ramblings have perhaps put an end to Bozo's chances of becoming the next PM.

[AdiSalisbury]

Politically I am in agreement with you RA... mostly

[Andy_Faber]

Well the football stuff and the postponement of Trump's visit I'll agree with. I was though talking politically and, apart from Adi's shares and Swale's increased optimism about the type of Brexit we might face, I note no one is really disagreeing. Add to that the fact that our Foreign Secretary no less gave the type of interview yesterday that would have made Diane Abbot look competent - very little said incidentally - and I see few grounds for optimism except that his inane ramblings have perhaps put an end to Bozo's chances of becoming the next PM.

You're right, Boris' performance was a disaster, it came on just as I switched the car radio ob and I thought I'd timeshifted into an episode of Dead Ringers. I expected it to be ALL OVER the news when I got home. Instead, nothing....

Eddie Mair is great, but sometimes his quest for perfection in cool sarcasm gets in the way of him REALLY going in for the kill which he could have done, and which Boz would have deserved

[swaledale]

Half a million a year just has to stop, its bonkers. I repeat what I've said before, I love my fellow man so long as he comes in peace, AS AN INDIVIDUAL, but a million every two years is IMO the main reason our public services are creaking, we appear to need extra immigrants just to service the extra immigrants.

Well no we need immigrants to serve the increasingly older population , so if we stop, then who exactly is going to fill the vacant jobs and pay the taxes necessary to pay the pensions and increasing health costs that our ageing population requires and creates?

The main reason our public services are creaking may just have something to do with the savage cuts inflicted? Viz 46,000 or 20% less Police since 2010 and numerous other examples where people blithely nod their heads and say thats fine until something affects them!

[Andy_Faber]

Well no we need immigrants to serve the increasingly older population , so if we stop, then who exactly is going to fill the vacant jobs and pay the taxes necessary to pay the pensions and increasing health costs that our ageing population requires and creates?

thats far too simplistic, people aren't just a drain on the state when they reach 65! what's needed to pay the pensions isn't immigrants its money, and that can be generated in many ways - taxes for a start

[swaledale]

thats far too simplistic, people aren't just a drain on the state when they reach 65! what's needed to pay the pensions isn't immigrants its money, and that can be generated in many ways - taxes for a start

Yes exactly, who is going to pay the taxes? Who is going to fill the job vacancies? No over 65's aren't a drain on the state though 50% of welfare benefits go to over 65's and they take a large proportion of the NHs budget as well.

How is that simplistic to you saying 2 million is too many???