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  • Originally posted by SithHappens View Post
    I see Farage has been ranting about smoky bacon crisps and the brexit reset deal.

    This despite most companies already using alternative food flavorings which comply with EU rules.

    Still priorities and all that.
    I've just read some interesting data on what MP's earn through second jobs, provided by Flourish a data company. Farage who has ump**** other "jobs" earns just under £1 million, which says it all about his priorities, himself and he will use others to feather his own nest.

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    • Who decided t e e n should be blocked. Seems to me like whoever did has a dirtier mind than most. I would imagine for every inappropriate usage of the word there would be a 1000 or more appropriate uses of it.

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      • Originally posted by swaledale View Post
        I've just read some interesting data on what MP's earn through second jobs, provided by Flourish a data company. Farage who has ump**** other "jobs" earns just under £1 million, which says it all about his priorities, himself and he will use others to feather his own nest.
        Having his own tv channel as a sitting MP and leader of a party seems wrong. Amazing how he's claimed he can't do surgeries because of safety concerns but shows up on pubs etc at the drop of a hat.

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        • Originally posted by SithHappens View Post
          I see Farage has been ranting about smoky bacon crisps and the brexit reset deal.

          This despite most companies already using alternative food flavorings which comply with EU rules.

          Still priorities and all that.
          But will they still be HALAL?

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          • Originally posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
            But will they still be HALAL?
            Would imagine so, can't imagine they stun potatoes before slaughtering them.

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            • Originally posted by SithHappens View Post
              Would imagine so, can't imagine they stun potatoes before slaughtering them.
              went right over your head that one sith, never mind

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              • Halal hath no fury like a potato stunned ?

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                • The date that Daniel Hannan chose for his now infamous Newsnight video and Reaction Life article, published two days before voters went to the polls in the 2016 referendum, has finally arrived. Yes, it’s 24 June 2025 and Britain has certainly left the EU, exactly as Hannan urged, but unfortunately life in Britain is unrecognisable from the one he predicted nine years ago with all the misplaced confidence of the anti-EU zealot.

                  Brexit Independence Day
                  Britain isn’t celebrating its Independence Day with fireworks. Older industries like steel, cement, paper, plastics and ceramics haven’t “revived as energy prices have fallen back to global levels”. Or at least if they have, it will come as a surprise to those working in them. London, Birmingham, Leeds, Liverpool and Glasgow haven’t “boomed” and neither has shale oil and gas “come on tap”. Our universities aren’t “flourishing”, and their revenues aren’t “rising”. Fuel bills for UK consumers haven’t “tumbled” either.

                  The EU hasn’t “turned inward” and no, “Denmark, the Netherlands and Ireland” didn’t “follow us out” as he forecast. Plans to harmonise income tax and social security across the bloc never materialised and therefore didn’t “prompt referendums in three other EU states”. And unfortunately for Hannan, Britain doesn’t “lead a 22-state bloc that forms a free trade area with the EU”.

                  They were all figments of his imagination.

                  And amazingly nobody seems to hold Hannan or Mr Brexit BS himself, Farage to account. No the dumbass voters think Farage is the man to set things right! Yeah of course he is, because lets face it he is famous for actually doing that isn't he?

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                  • Britain’s fourth-wealthiest man has argued it is better to be ‘independent’ than tied to the EU


                    I hope he's ok with his poverty...maybe a go fund me is in order

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                    • Originally posted by SithHappens View Post
                      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2829797.html

                      I hope he's ok with his poverty...maybe a go fund me is in order
                      He doesn't like other people telling him what to do? Well, I have a 2 word instruction for him, the second of which is OFF.

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                      • I see Bad Enoch, hasn't learnt the lesson of Brexit, now saying the Tories would leave the EHCR if elected (which they won't be). That will really **** things up, scupper the Good Friday Agreement for a start, but also increase problems trading with Europe and possibly other countries as well.

                        Ah well I guess erecting more barriers to trade and another hit to the UK economy is just what the Tories want!

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                        • Originally posted by swaledale View Post
                          I see Bad Enoch, hasn't learnt the lesson of Brexit, now saying the Tories would leave the EHCR if elected (which they won't be). That will really **** things up, scupper the Good Friday Agreement for a start, but also increase problems trading with Europe and possibly other countries as well.

                          Ah well I guess erecting more barriers to trade and another hit to the UK economy is just what the Tories want!
                          It’s time the EU itself stood up to the ECHR. They as well as us, come a cropper with it with illegal immigrants and criminals. It needs rewriting and amending
                          It’s run by dodgy judges and it seems accountable to no one. We still never found out which one of them stopped that Rwanda plane at 1am in the morning under the Tories watch and the reason why.

                          Just this week, two criminals in the uk are not up for deportation, because of the right to a family life despite being *** pests.
                          Its wrong and either gets re written or binned,

                          It’s time the victims rights come before any criminals rights

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                          • Changing something that's wrong doesn't seem like a bad idea.

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                            • Originally posted by swaledale View Post
                              I see Bad Enoch, hasn't learnt the lesson of Brexit, now saying the Tories would leave the EHCR if elected (which they won't be). That will really **** things up, scupper the Good Friday Agreement for a start, but also increase problems trading with Europe and possibly other countries as well.

                              Ah well I guess erecting more barriers to trade and another hit to the UK economy is just what the Tories want!
                              Out of interest how do you think it might affect trade as USA isn't in EHCR and it's not seeming to limit their capacity to trade with Europe.

                              Asking for a friend as I have no view either way

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                              • Originally posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
                                Out of interest how do you think it might affect trade as USA isn't in EHCR and it's not seeming to limit their capacity to trade with Europe.

                                Asking for a friend as I have no view either way
                                The USA and other countries we or the EU trade with are subject to separate negotiated agreements.

                                The current UK-EU Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA) is dependent on the UK’s continued membership of the ECHR. Leaving the ECHR is likely to be considered a breach of an ‘essential element’ of the TCA (‘the Parties reaffirm their respect for the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the international human rights treaties to which they are parties’ (Article 763)) which will enable the EU ‘to terminate or suspend the operation of this Agreement … in whole or in part’ (Article 772).

                                While unlikely to lead to a complete suspension of trade, it will mean that further renegotiation of the deal to remove the onerous requirements on paper work, it would end any prospect of better deals for animal and plant trade. The price of food and other goods would rise as a consequence and the trade already lost by thousands of small to medium suppliers will never be recovered.

                                The UK has already lost around 15% in export trade with the EU at great cost to the economy and indeed us its citizens due to Brexit and specifically the fact that despite the claims of those on the Vote leave side, that the EU would be eager to trade on the same terms, funnily enough they weren't and didn't.

                                The prospect of more friction on trade and no prospect of reducing the existing costs and friction imposed under existing deals with the EU, would inevitably result in prices rising and trade declining.


                                In addition of course, the Belfast/Good Friday Agreement (GFA), which has helped to secure peace in Northern Ireland, is underpinned by UK membership of the ECHR. Even that know purveyor of fantasy policies, Farage admits that the GFA would have to be renegotiated – no easy feat when the initial agreement required referendums on both sides of the Irish border.

                                And all for what? Leave the ECHR and kiss goodbye to returning failed asylum seekers to the EU, they won't accept them.

                                Amending it is a possibility, but complicated, but in any case, contrary to what certain media and other commentators report, its application is only affecting a very few cases where the UK wishes to deport people. So the benefits will be negligible, set against the disbenefit.

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