OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[swaledale]

Always amusing to see someone correcting someone else when they themselves make frequent spelling and grammatical errors.

In the "corrective" post, its should be it's.

Ammy has corrected you many a time and oft on there, their and they're amongst other faux pas.

Its always amusing when someone fails to recognise a tongue in cheek dig, in response to the fact that the poster (as does another on here) being corrected, more often than not attacks the grammar, the way something has been posted or the source of the information and completely ignores the proposition being put forward.

[Geoff Parkstone]

So misspelling It's again in this post must be another example of that corruscating humour I guess. I rolled on the floor so much I nearly spilled my pint.

[SithHappens]

My spelling is terrible to be fair. I only call out, I think, errors where a post has been the victim of auto correct and a different word inserted. Which can be funny.

[Geoff Parkstone]

My spelling is terrible to be fair. I only call out, I think, errors where a post has been the victim of auto correct and a different word inserted. Which can be funny.

Indeed it could be fanny

[Andy_Faber]

My spelling is terrible to be fair. I only call out, I think, errors where a post has been the victim of auto correct and a different word inserted. Which can be funny.

I'm sure any errors by you would be forgiven, we had a poster called mistaram who never used any punctuation but was forgiven because his posts were otherwise so well regarded. Different with Swale of course, he gets what he deserves and I'm sensing we may get some classic Swale coming up as he REALLY doesn't like being seen to be wrong

[swaledale]

I'm sure any errors by you would be forgiven, we had a poster called mistaram who never used any punctuation but was forgiven because his posts were otherwise so well regarded. Different with Swale of course, he gets what he deserves and I'm sensing we may get some classic Swale coming up as he REALLY doesn't like being seen to be wrong

A rather fine example of the pot calling the kettle black!

Telling that the only time you post a response to me, is when you are emboldened by apparent support from other posters, most times you disappear and clam up. But that wouldn't be because you dislike your BS being exposed now would it?


Given the fact that you and GP spend more time attacking my spelling, grammar or decrying the source of information and fail most times to address the issues raised do please enjoy your pyrrhic "victory" as the saying goes little things please little minds.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Fear not. Swale. My new years resolution is to not read your posts so I shan't comment on your spelling. I will get the gist of your opinions via scanning rA's echoes although they are very predictable anyway

[Andy_Faber]

that wouldn't be because you dislike your BS being exposed now would it?

No, it would be because I don't wake up every morning angry at the world not going the way I want it to, and then even more angry when even the smallest cohort I can find don't agree with me on everything. That would be you of course

[ramAnag]

Point of information, GP. I never ‘echo’ Swale’s comments. That is just another of your untruths aimed at undermining people who disagree with you. I frequently agree with Swale’s political comments - something which appears to annoy you enormously - but that is another thing entirely. It’s kind of how forums work. We indicate our agreement with certain comments and our disagreement with others. Personally I can’t see anything wrong with that and have lost count of the number of times you have indicated support for AF or he has begun a post by writing, ‘I have to agree with GP on this one’. So what?

As regards our moderator, he currently appears to be anything but. He doesn’t moderate, he simply sh1t stirs.
He fails to answer any questions posed of himself, usually coming up with any one of three excuses, ‘I was just joshing’, ‘I have a life beyond this forum’ or ‘I’ll answer in my own time’ (aka I can’t answer so I won’t and I’ll just hope people forget the question).
At the moment the two of you are acting like a pair of wannabe school bullies. I doubt very much that Swale will be greatly affected anyway, but if this is the way you and Mr. Moderator want the forum to proceed then I suspect it has a very bleak future.

[Andy_Faber]

Point of information, GP. I never ‘echo’ Swale’s comments. That is just another of your untruths aimed at undermining people who disagree with you. I frequently agree with Swale’s political comments - something which appears to annoy you enormously - but that is another thing entirely. It’s kind of how forums work. We indicate our agreement with certain comments and our disagreement with others. Personally I can’t see anything wrong with that and have lost count of the number of times you have indicated support for AF or he has begun a post by writing, ‘I have to agree with GP on this one’. So what?

As regards our moderator, he currently appears to be anything but. He doesn’t moderate, he simply sh1t stirs.
He fails to answer any questions posed of himself, usually coming up with any one of three excuses, ‘I was just joshing’, ‘I have a life beyond this forum’ or ‘I’ll answer in my own time’ (aka I can’t answer so I won’t and I’ll just hope people forget the question).
At the moment the two of you are acting like a pair of wannabe school bullies. I doubt very much that Swale will be greatly affected anyway, but if this is the way you and Mr. Moderator want the forum to proceed then I suspect it has a very bleak future.

There's an easy solution which as moderator I'm happy to implement and which would reduce rancour at a stroke. Lock the politics threads, and don't allowany more. Works (almost) on DCFCFans, works on any number of other sport and music forums I troll, works on facebook, works on Threads. Its hard work for administrators on big forums because to be honest folk just can't help themselves, but it does work for the most part. And those who can't keep politics/personal worldviews out of the mix are either 'let go' or wander off elsewhere, for instance to Urban75.

Its not red, but I do have a button

[ramAnag]

There's an easy solution which as moderator I'm happy to implement and which would reduce rancour at a stroke. Lock the politics threads, and don't allowany more. Works (almost) on DCFCFans, works on any number of other sport and music forums I troll, works on facebook, works on Threads. Its hard work for administrators on big forums because to be honest folk just can't help themselves, but it does work for the most part. And those who can't keep politics/personal worldviews out of the mix are either 'let go' or wander off elsewhere, for instance to Urban75.

Its not red, but I do have a button

Well of course you can if you want to, after all it appears to be YOUR forum these days and it’s something you’ve be wanting to do for a while.

One word of warning, I’d have a look at the relative number of posts on various threads and, from a survival point of view, give consideration to the fact that the interest in the political ones seems to vastly outweigh all the others.

Perhaps an easier solution might be that you, as moderator, display a level of respect that should go with that position, stop seeing yourself as being above questions that are put to you and actually start doing some moderating and stop displaying the blatant favouritism that has come to typify your tenure.

Beyond that, you play with your little ‘button’ till your heart’s content but consider this, who starts much of the ‘rancour’ - because, imo, you and GP are as guilty as anyone - and how many posts do you think you’ll have each week without the politics?

[Geoff Parkstone]

There's an easy solution which as moderator I'm happy to implement and which would reduce rancour at a stroke. Lock the politics threads, and don't allowany more. Works (almost) on DCFCFans, works on any number of other sport and music forums I troll, works on facebook, works on Threads. Its hard work for administrators on big forums because to be honest folk just can't help themselves, but it does work for the most part. And those who can't keep politics/personal worldviews out of the mix are either 'let go' or wander off elsewhere, for instance to Urban75.

Its not red, but I do have a button

Given the way this site functions, your button likely wouldnt work anyway!

[Geoff Parkstone]

Well of course you can if you want to, after all it appears to be YOUR forum these days and it’s something you’ve be wanting to do for a while.

One word of warning, I’d have a look at the relative number of posts on various threads and, from a survival point of view, give consideration to the fact that the interest in the political ones seems to vastly outweigh all the others.

Perhaps an easier solution might be that you, as moderator, display a level of respect that should go with that position, stop seeing yourself as being above questions that are put to you and actually start doing some moderating and stop displaying the blatant favouritism that has come to typify your tenure.

Beyond that, you play with your little ‘button’ till your heart’s content but consider this, who starts much of the ‘rancour’ - because, imo, you and GP are as guilty as anyone - and how many posts do you think you’ll have each week without the politics?

Whilst not disagreeing with you that the political threads generate a high volume of traffic compared to the sports type content, there is an issue of quality over quantity. The Brexit thread (why is it still live?) may contain a lot of posts, but if you were to take out all the duplicated points bith before it happened and then subsequent, there probably only 100 unique comments - a few more than a Derby v Millwall thread I grant but as that threads been going about 10 years.... Before the vote there was a mass of polarised input into what should happen, then a ton of wailing and gnashing of teeth and since then a whole mass of "I told you so" fatuous recrimination. To be honest if I see another "such an such an advisory group have "proved" that Brexit hasnt worked" post again I think Ill shoot someone. Other than to vent anger, its pointless. Its happened and anyone who thinks half a dozen powerless blokes on here can do anyjthing about it really needs their bumos read. So for me this one can be closed for all I care.

The running politics thread does at least address a variety of topics and for those that enjoy such cross debate it has a value to the extent that any political thread on a football forum can. Unlike Brexit new issues are raised which can provole discussion, but it too suffers by seeing the same polarised opinions trotted out whatever the topical question of the day is - discussions rapidly descend into blaming the right wing for everything, be it the press, Farage, Trump... ergo rancour ensues because whilst there is "debate" after a fashion we can all predict each others reactions to any issue raised and know exactly who will agree with who. Is it debate if nothing you can say can influence anyone else in the slightest? So whilst the current politics thread has some value in occasionally raising spirited debate it rapidly ends up with ranks closed. I guess most of us like it because we enjoy winding each other up, hence a couple of members stay away and let the others engage in a dogfight.

As for AF, I think your criticism is harsh in that, despite being a moderator, he is still allowed to have an opinion of his own and we are too small a group to have a "speaker of the house" who has to remain neutral. Im quite sure if any of us were the moderator we'd all adopt the same style of trying to juggle opinion vs unpiring. You may not agree with his opinion but its unfair to deny his right to have it because he is the moderator.

Anyway, thats my tenpenceworth, you can agree or disagree, its a free vote. But if this were a democracy I'd vote to close Brexit thread and put the other political thread on probation. This is not a post about individuals, but rather about repetetive debate and anger venting by ALL parties involved.

[ramAnag]

Whilst not disagreeing with you that the political threads generate a high volume of traffic compared to the sports type content, there is an issue of quality over quantity. The Brexit thread (why is it still live?) may contain a lot of posts, but if you were to take out all the duplicated points bith before it happened and then subsequent, there probably only 100 unique comments - a few more than a Derby v Millwall thread I grant but as that threads been going about 10 years.... Before the vote there was a mass of polarised input into what should happen, then a ton of wailing and gnashing of teeth and since then a whole mass of "I told you so" fatuous recrimination. To be honest if I see another "such an such an advisory group have "proved" that Brexit hasnt worked" post again I think Ill shoot someone. Other than to vent anger, its pointless. Its happened and anyone who thinks half a dozen powerless blokes on here can do anyjthing about it really needs their bumos read. So for me this one can be closed for all I care.

The running politics thread does at least address a variety of topics and for those that enjoy such cross debate it has a value to the extent that any political thread on a football forum can. Unlike Brexit new issues are raised which can provole discussion, but it too suffers by seeing the same polarised opinions trotted out whatever the topical question of the day is - discussions rapidly descend into blaming the right wing for everything, be it the press, Farage, Trump... ergo rancour ensues because whilst there is "debate" after a fashion we can all predict each others reactions to any issue raised and know exactly who will agree with who. Is it debate if nothing you can say can influence anyone else in the slightest? So whilst the current politics thread has some value in occasionally raising spirited debate it rapidly ends up with ranks closed. I guess most of us like it because we enjoy winding each other up, hence a couple of members stay away and let the others engage in a dogfight.

As for AF, I think your criticism is harsh in that, despite being a moderator, he is still allowed to have an opinion of his own and we are too small a group to have a "speaker of the house" who has to remain neutral. Im quite sure if any of us were the moderator we'd all adopt the same style of trying to juggle opinion vs unpiring. You may not agree with his opinion but its unfair to deny his right to have it because he is the moderator.

Anyway, thats my tenpenceworth, you can agree or disagree, its a free vote. But if this were a democracy I'd vote to close Brexit thread and put the other political thread on probation. This is not a post about individuals, but rather about repetetive debate and anger venting by ALL parties involved.

You have your opinion and I have mine. We’re both equally entitled to them.

As it happens I don’t enjoy ‘winding up’ others. I just enjoy debate/discussion, simple as that.

Ultimately I think we’re all adult enough to decide what we want to comment on and, as long as things remain in the realms of decency, then they should be left well alone and interference free.

First and foremost this is a DCFC site followed I think, in no particular order, by comments relating to football in general, other sports, music, films and current affairs. Personally I have virtually zero interest in motor racing, just as you have similarly expressed a lack of interest regarding soul music, but I don’t think either of us would seek to ban or do away with comments on those particular subjects…we just accept we have nothing to offer.

Live and let live. Threads live or die according to the level of interest in them and as regards the Brexit thread, well it’s still very much a ‘live’ issue isn’t it, so why not let people comment? If there is no interest it’ll just fade away naturally.

[Geoff Parkstone]

You have your opinion and I have mine. We’re both equally entitled to them.

As it happens I don’t enjoy ‘winding up’ others. I just enjoy debate/discussion, simple as that.

Ultimately I think we’re all adult enough to decide what we want to comment on and, as long as things remain in the realms of decency, then they should be left well alone and interference free.

First and foremost this is a DCFC site followed I think, in no particular order, by comments relating to football in general, other sports, music, films and current affairs. Personally I have virtually zero interest in motor racing, just as you have similarly expressed a lack of interest regarding soul music, but I don’t think either of us would seek to ban or do away with comments on those particular subjects…we just accept we have nothing to offer.

Live and let live. Threads live or die according to the level of interest in them and as regards the Brexit thread, well it’s still very much a ‘live’ issue isn’t it, so why not let people comment? If there is no interest it’ll just fade away naturally.

Political opinion creates rancour wherever it is raised. F1 and soul music don't.

Is Brexit a live issue? In my view no, the debate has been a dead issue for nearly 10 years. What is the issue is what direction is right for the country to now take with regards to Europe. Brexit was done and dusted years ago, we must move on from "but he said on the bus" to what is right for Britain today - a Britain with many new challenges that didn't exist in 2016: Russian aggression, uncontrolled immigration, failing economies both here and in Europe. We can learn from history but have to have regard for changing times and situations. We can reopen a debate with "should we consider rejoining, if wanted by Europe, but that's no a Brexit issue, it's a whole new debate that can play out before a much changed plebiscite.