OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[SithHappens]

We could ask 30p to sort it

[MadAmster]

We could ask 30p to sort it

That would end disastrousLee

[swaledale]

This is true but, unless you’re going to fully embrace the Finnish system, totally unaffordable. It would involve something like a 75% increase in the cost of school meal funding and you haven’t even touched on ‘breakfast club’ provision yet.

Very much in favour of helping those in the greatest need but why should the country be paying for feeding the children of comfortably/well off parents and guess where the funding will come from?

Well I guess the Scandanavian Countires and Finland have a system which distributes resources more fairly? After all the money hasn't disappeared, its just concentrated in a minority of the population in the UK.

[ramAnag]

Well I guess the Scandanavian Countires and Finland have a system which distributes resources more fairly? After all the money hasn't disappeared, its just concentrated in a minority of the population in the UK.

Yes, I agree. Just pointing out that it’s a bit of an ‘all or nothing’ situation. I applaud what I understand of the Finnish system but we’re miles away from adopting something similar and as long as we carry on with variations on the same old theme then the notion of providing free school meals for all is unaffordable and probably unjustifiable.

[swaledale]

Yes, I agree. Just pointing out that it’s a bit of an ‘all or nothing’ situation. I applaud what I understand of the Finnish system but we’re miles away from adopting something similar and as long as we carry on with variations on the same old theme then the notion of providing free school meals for all is unaffordable and probably unjustifiable.

Ah the chicken and the egg situation? But isn't the point to establish what could be delivered, what people actually want and what a good system ina well run country looks like and then consider how to get there, how to fund it?

Apart from The Green party, most current political thinking remains wedded to the old orthodoxy or worse a return to austerity, which hit the poor and marginlaised in UK society far more than the rest.

Labour for me, with a huge majority have been far to timid, or perhaps far to obligated to corporate donors and the bond markets to actually think more radically and implement change. Examples for me, are failure to reform the House of Lords, failure to consider reform of the voting system, these would hardly be controversal. But then a serious look at transition fro fossil fuels is required, that does not penalise those least able to afford it. A complete review of the tax system, etc. etc.

In the short term a one off wealth tax would raise enough to do some of the things required.

Unfortunately there will be those that scoff at The Greens, but the point here is that putting forward radical ideas is necessary, some of the policies put forward by The Greens may seem wacky, some may seem outlandish and unachievable, but at least they prompt a discussion out of which certain ideas and themes can be developed into practical policies.

I get most annoyed with the Lib Dems who could and should be putting forward radical ideas, but are somewhat insipid.

Also we could be learnign from other countries, what do they do, how do they finance it and how might that be adapted in the UK?

We are only stuck with the current system and way of working because nobody is considering that things could be done differently. The inherent small c conservatism of people whose general response is to avoid change but somehow be persuaded by right wing (mostly) that hitting the poor and stopping asylum seekers whilst giving tax breaks to the rich are the answers.

[SithHappens]

The Met Police have requested that Madeline McCann suspect Christian Brueckner be extradited to the UK as they feel there is enough evidence to prosecute.

However it appears this is not possible as Germany does not allow extradition to non-eu countries.

Another impact of Brexit

[swaledale]

One has to hand it to Farage, he promotes Brexit as being so wonderful and its been a disaster, especially for those who voted for it, he then makes another lot of unsupported, unrealistic and lacking in detail and how they will be funded promises and in brexit voting areas, the dumb voters vote for Reform again!!

I mean he really does treat voters as if they are thick and it works!

[MadAmster]

One has to hand it to Farage, he promotes Brexit as being so wonderful and its been a disaster, especially for those who voted for it, he then makes another lot of unsupported, unrealistic and lacking in detail and how they will be funded promises and in brexit voting areas, the dumb voters vote for Reform again!!

I mean he really does treat voters as if they are thick and it works!

as if? I doubt there's any doubt, whatsoever, that they are, indeed, of the 2 short planks variety.

[Trickytreesreds]

The Met Police have requested that Madeline McCann suspect Christian Brueckner be extradited to the UK as they feel there is enough evidence to prosecute.

However it appears this is not possible as Germany does not allow extradition to non-eu countries.

Another impact of Brexit

No it?s not.

countries all over the world extradite prisoners for trial for crimes.

if this was Germanys stance, why isn?t he extradited to Portugal, where the crime took place?

This is Germany just being Germany and another example of EU isolationism when it suits.
The Uk should remember this, when they want someone extradited back to Germany and we have inherited quite a few


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In summary, while Germany asks for extradition of suspects from the UK for crimes committed in Germany, extradition from Germany to the UK is frequently blocked by constitutional restrictions regarding German citizens and, at times, concerns over UK prison conditions.

Sounds like double standards to me.

Can you imagine the UK using that excuse for here in Thailand. It would be more realistic considering the state of Thai jails ��

[ramAnag]

Can you imagine the UK using that excuse for here in Thailand. It would be more realistic considering the state of Thai jails ��

So that’s where you’ve been hiding!

[MadAmster]

So that’s where you’ve been hiding!

I decided not to make that comment earlier. Glad I'm not the only one to whom it occurred though

[SithHappens]

Farage now saying his 5 million donation/gift was now a gift for Brexit. How nice for him to have secured such wealth while many many others lost businesses, jobs and security because of his pet project.

[MadAmster]

Farage now saying his 5 million donation/gift was now a gift for Brexit. How nice for him to have secured such wealth while many many others lost businesses, jobs and security because of his pet project.

Didn't he say "reward for campaignng for Brexit"? In which case, should it be subject to income tax?

[SithHappens]

Didn't he say "reward for campaignng for Brexit"? In which case, should it be subject to income tax?

He did

[MadAmster]

He did

So it appears it should be subject to income tax. If that assumption is wrong I'm sure there's 2 or 3 posters on here who can tell me why.

If, as I suspect it is subject to tax, I sincerely hope he's not declared it to HMRC. That would be brilliant